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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 05:55 PM
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Screaming Lawyers: "Vaginal and Anal Penetration" ... but semen is
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 05:56 PM by Husb2Sparkly
..... 'DNA".

All day, all the screaming lawyers have been saying - shouting, actually - is "Vaginal and Anal Penetration" .... but when it comes to ... well .... cum ..... its 'DNA". Is semen no longer an operative term, but the technical names for the genitalia of possibly raped college student is okay to use?

I dunno .... maybe I'm over-reacting here, but this kind of crap just grates on me.

And to show I'm not imagining it, one of the screaming lawyers started to use the word 'semen' and literally stopped in mid 'sem' ..... and used DNA. Clearly this is an order from on high.

Who the hell is scripting all this crap?????

This is kinda like evolution vs creationism ...... but in reverse. In this case, there is **clearly** a higher power.

edit to fix title
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:03 PM
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1. I see your frustration but
could using the broader term of DNA be meant to include saliva, blood, hair, and skin?:shrug:
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ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:04 PM
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2. So whose semen is it?
Is this about the lacrosse team? I guess they're doing more tests.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:04 PM
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3. I see your point, but maybe it's a legal term, to remind everyone
that DNA is absolute proof of the identity of the attacker.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:16 PM
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4. "you can't dust for..." semen
completely inappropriate reference.

apologies.

i'm actually disgusted with how some DU'ers immediately screamed Twana Brawley yesterday on the DNA update. i thought we were better than that.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:31 PM
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6. Funny, I never saw anyone say that.
I did, however, see a lot of people advocating the immediate conviction of the entire sports team prior to the tests coming in, opposed by a vocal minority who favor investigation and the presumption of innocence.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:41 PM
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7. The "Twana Brawley" schtick was out in full blast here yesterday.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:06 PM
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8. this means???? you think she lied + the team are all innocent??? or what??
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:29 PM
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11. Google the story!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:07 PM
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9. Yeah, I never saw it either ... and I was kinda lurking here all thru the
day ...... :shrug:
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:16 PM
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15. the worst was in LBN, right when the news hit
i decided not peek at any more after that. glad it wasn't so bad here!

heard the story on ATC tonite. it was a good piece.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 06:19 PM
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5. How about..."Penile invasion"?
?
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:35 PM
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17. So many inappropriate Airplane jokes...so little time...nt
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laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 07:59 PM
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10. I say RE-TEST DNA of team IN FRONT of an unbiased witness!
SOMETHING DOESN'T SMELL RIGHT!!
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:30 PM
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12. You don't perfer the cleaned up version?
DNA versus... spooge?
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:44 PM
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13. Some people call me Stinky the Clown ... but those who know me well
... call me gutter mouth.

Frankly, I've never understood the fear of words. Words have meaning and sonme words covey a shade of difference as compared to a seeming synonym.

Gerorge Carlin is a whiz at knowing what words and phrases work to convey to desired message. He'd never use 'DNA" unless it served a purpose ... and knowing him, that purpose would never be sanitization.
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 08:51 PM
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14. Carlin...damn he's good
Say Semen 100 times & it loses all it's stickiness :)

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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:28 AM
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20. one time I had to say...
..."cock-ring" in a speech I was giving. For days, I walked around my house saying "cock-ring" over and over so I would not blush when I said it in front of a group of people. It did not loose it's "stickiness." In fact as I write this, I still blush!
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 09:31 PM
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16. DNA means a lot more than semen. It's hair, it's skin, it's saliva.
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 09:33 PM by Neil Lisst
It's not just about semen, it's the fact that NO DNA was found.

And why do you call them "screaming lawyers?"

I've heard a lot of people on the news talking about it, lawyers and talking heads, and I didn't hear any of them screaming.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 10:56 PM
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18. In the specific context of today's 'discussions' they were talking about
splooge. Period.

When they *did* get off the cum talk, they mentioned hair and such specifically. But when they clearly meant cum - er, semen - it was 'DNA'.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-11-06 11:04 PM
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19. actually, in the specific context of the incident
Edited on Tue Apr-11-06 11:05 PM by Neil Lisst
it's not just semen, it's the hair and skin

They might have worn condoms, but not transferring any skin or hair to her in 30 minutes of fighting and raping is very unlikely, and therefore makes her story difficult to make fit the facts.

The complete absence of DNA on her, not just the absence of semen, is what just about kills the case, IMHO.
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