Thank You GOP For Handing us a Huge Victory for the Working Class People!

[radio4progressives]

Sensenbrenners draconian and Fascists bill woke up a "sleeping giant" as we all have observed in the past two and three weeks. This "sleeping giant" is comprised of millions of working people and their families protesting Sensebrenner's bill and seeking simple socio-economic justice and equality..

Millions of Latina/o and Hispanic workers, citizens and non-citizens and their families are the poor and the WORKING CLASS.. they are organized and they are strong Union organizers and activists. They are also VOTERS. a Huge Voting Block for the working class cause !

Which equates to the Democratic Party, all Dems should be in solidarity with their cause because it is OUR CAUSE, and because Latina/o workers eyes are wide opened as to what Republicans are really all about.

This is going to change the so called "Red State" status of states like Nevada, Ariziona, New Mexico, Texas, and maybe clear up to Utah and Idaho eventually.. In ten years it is estimated that Whites will be in the Minority in California, that Latino/a's will be the majority of voting citizens. Those numbers will increase in the other Southwestern States.. and States that exploit migrant/seasonal workers like South Carolina, North Carolina and Georgia among others. The tide, i believe is finally turning.

So Dems! Wake Up! This is OUR ISSUE, these are OUR Sisters and Brothers! Join with them in solidarity on May 1st in every city and town across this nation!

With this very unexpected, unplanned string of events - we are going to take power again - we are going to reclaim our democracy again! we are going to once again see the cause of socio-economic and political justice and equality for the poor and the working class, the underclass and disenfranchised in a major way in the next few elections!

The GOP's extremist fascists days are finally NUMBERED, forever!!!! YES!


Viva La Revolution!

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Just what we need, more "one-issue" voters

a "wedge issue" at that

it's the subtle, splippery stuff that's killing our country.

[radio4progressives]

2. exuse me the cause of the working class comprise Multiple issues

and that's the POINT.. everything that concerns all union workers deals with every aspect life and how domestic policies impact it, from education, to health care to living wage, to environmental etc etc..

No sir, the Cause of the Working Class is the entirety of the Democratic Party Platform.. But then, most Democrats know this.. maybe you are new to the party?

[BlueEyedSon]

4. I'm sorry, which protest were you talking about?

[calimary]

13. Well, if that's what it takes...

If that's what will help...

If that's what will win...

...then I really can't find too many holes to punch in it, frankly.

You can't govern, or set the agenda, or make the change, or steer the reforms...


...UNLESS YOU WIN.

[ieoeja]

16. Nor can you...

You also can't govern, or set the agenda, or make the change, or steer the reforms ...

... UNLESS THE PEOPLE AGREE with your agenda, changes or reforms. If YOU WIN by promising one agenda, changes or reforms, then deliver a different, backlash is guaranteed.

If you keep shifting your promises to the Right and the Conservatives keep shifting theirs further to the Right, then the Center keeps moving to the Right. So in the end, winning gets you nothing except the power to move the country further to the Right. In which case, the other guys win regardless of who is in power.

[Kikosexy2]

3. It's time...

to take full advantage and get the word out--hand out fliers at these demonstrations to support the Democratic Party--vote the Repugs out of office--vote against corruptions, scandals & illegal wars and fiscal irresponsibility. It's time to take our country back and mobilize Latino/Hispanic vote the Democratic Party way--I urge you all to move baby move!!!

[radio4progressives]

7. indeed! The time is Now! We ignore this at our PERIL!

[gizmo1979]

5. Problem is

they can't vote.

[radio4progressives]

6. Who is "They" that can't vote?

"They" that I'm referring to, are the millions of naturalized and natural born citizens in this country now.. not every Latina/o in this country are illegal - and those that are legal citizens have just declared their intentions as Voters... "Today We March, Tomorrow We Vote" was the mantra in all of yesterday's rallies.

Coming up on May 1st, is International Workers Day and this communtiy has called for a one day General Strike (on May 1st)not just on the job, but no shopping and no "consuming". And they are calling for the nations entire working class sisters and brothers Union and Non-Union Members to join this General Strike on May 1st - and hit the streets en masse solidarity.

Oh, and they will be voting as a huge block - and the Democratic Party has Repukes following the edicts of Rep Sensebrenner, Senator Kyle, and the other fascists pigs in the Repuke party for this incredible gift handed to us on a silver platter.. Now it's up to us, the rank and file, community activists, the poor and the working class to join ranks in solidarity for this incredible new movement that is going to be built on the working class.

The Tide of Fascism and Despotism is finally turning, victory is ours for the taking, but we must stand in solidarity and unamity, understanding to the depths of our souls that their cause is indeed OUR CAUSE.

[gizmo1979]

8. Illegal aliens.

[radio4progressives]

9. Well, uh that's true, I'm not talking about "Illegal Aliens"

I'm taking about joining cause with Legal Immigrants, naturalized citizens and their families who are students and workers and Union members and who are entitled to vote.

[gizmo1979]

10. Ah I see and seeing how they are

the largest minority If you can secure their vote you could hold the house and senate forever.

[radio4progressives]

11. I'm advocating that ALL workers join the struggle in solidarity ..

the working class cuts through every ethnicity, every race, religion and other minority groups - the point is we have common cause - together we can be the biggest voting block in United States Electoral politics - and finally turn the tide of facism, to a country and a culture that HONORS the working class people and our needs as a society and national community.

[Kikosexy2]

14. Illegals...

can't vote but legal Hispanic/Latino citizens can and all it takes is to spread word from Latino to Latino illegal or not...get the word out--VOTE DEMOCRAT!

[JNelson6563]

12. This is a Dem Issue!!!

You are so right RFP, we need to represent the working class better and get them behind us.

Julie

[The Magistrate]

15. A Useful Analysis, Ma'am

The politics of this matter are a vexed mixture, but a good line can be extracted from them for the present situation.

There is no doubt that immigration, and particularly illegal immigration, acts to depress wage levels, and so operates against working people's interests here in the United States. There really is no ground from which to dispute this, as it is the most elementary maxim of the subject that to increase the aggregate supply of an article will depress the price each individual article of that sort can command. Thus the principal backers of immigration, and of illegal immigration particularly, are and always will be various business lobbies seeking further advantage for employers, and there will always be a substantial opposition to the practice from native working people, that it would be most unwise to dismiss out of hand as mere racism.

In our nation's political life, however, ethnic and identity concerns have become major factors, and often obscure simple economic and class analysis and concerns. Whether this is a good thing or not is of no importance: it is a fact of our present political life, and must be weighed into any calculations. There is no doubt at all that immigrant citizens, and citizens of first generation descent from immigrants, as well as wholly native Hispanic citizens, view the clamor raised about an "immigration crisis" as an offensive against their ethnic identity, and an attempt to deprive them of status as "Americans" in this country. The Hispanic population is somewhat in flux in regards to political loyalty, and this current situation is turning them decidely against the Republican Party. The effect has been seen on a smaller scale already: the current status of California as a Democratic stronghold owes a great deal to the hard anti-illegal immigrant line pressed a decade ago by the state Republican Party there. There is reason to expect now that this same thing will take hold on the national level.

The best course for the Democratic Party would seem to be about what is being pursued, namely steadfast opposition to the Sennsenbrenner proposals, while seeing to it that nothing else really comes to replace these in the popular view as the "policy" being threatened by the Republican government.

[Toots]

17. I like what you say and how you say it but you offer no solutions.

Instead of cracking down on people so harshly I propose a very strict law on employment of illegals and very harsh penalties on employers. If the incentive is missing the problem should become less offensive. In this way it could not be interpreted as an ethnic or racial issue. :shrug: very few deny a problem exists...

[The Magistrate]

18. Solutions, Sir, Are Not My Stock In Trade

Not all problems have one; many are simply a fresh problem in disguise.

Personally, my inclination is towards the set of measures you propose, sanctions against employers of illegal immigrant labor. This strikes at the real offender, and in a manner that is at least apparently neutral.

But there is little doubt that many among the Hispanic community would perceive it as a lisence being granted to discriminate against them, and there would certainly be people who would take it as such in fact. After all, since it would be dangerous to make a mistake, safer to refrain from hirering anyone who might be foreign and illegal: certainly many business owners would draw this conclusion, and act on it. Anyone with accented speech and swarthy looks might have great difficulty finding employment outside ethnic enclaves, however native born they might actually be.

Enforcement of such a law would entail other problems: it is hard to see how it could be made workable without some real form of national identity papers, something a good deal harder and more dangerous to forge than the pastiche of documents employed towards that purpose today. A great many people, and of widely varied political stripes, view such a thing as anathema.