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BlueAwards Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:03 PM
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Poll question: Is it OK for two families to control the presidency for 28 years?
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 03:04 PM by BlueAwards
I am impartial on this topic, I am simply curious to see what you all think. If Hillary wins in 2008 (this question, however, has nothing to do with her personally), she could potentially serve until 2017. That would mean the Bush family and the Clinton family would have controlled the presidency for 28 years, over a quarter century.

So.... what do you think?
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:05 PM
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1. America is conditioned to like royalty
and politicians serve that purpose rather nicely. As long as they cooperate with the corporate message.

Washington saw the danger in this long ago.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:06 PM
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2. Which Bush will be next? George P, Jenna, Barb, Noelle?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:08 PM
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3. When you consider that Bush Sr. ran the show for a lot of Reagan's years..
The number gets even higher.
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:16 PM
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6. i doubt bush sr ran the show.......
....he was as much a puppet as reagan and the chimp. i haven't seen a bush family member that could run a lemonade stand, let alone run the country.
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BlueAwards Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:17 PM
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7. Excellent point, lol - nt
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A HERETIC I AM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:33 PM
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9. You underestimate GHWBush
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 03:35 PM by A HERETIC I AM
Don't forget, he was a bona fide WWII hero (A pilot) and served as the head of the CIA.

I didnt like Shrubbies pappy but he was 10 times the president his son is.

Next in line will be Jeb. Just watch.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 04:00 PM
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15. Well, he did run the CIA at one point
Scary thought!
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 11:15 PM
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25. yeah, and look at the other brainiacs that have run the cia
i'm not impressed with any of them
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 03:28 AM
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27. Bush ran Reagan's show?
Well there's some revisionist history.

Reagan had little respect for Bush. Thought he was a wimp. Didn't give him squat to do.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:08 PM
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4. only if you're like..
.. the Roosevelt's or the Kennedy's.
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:11 PM
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5. As a rule, no...
There are very good reasons for the presidency to be limited to 2 terms, especially if the familly has buisness interests: The amount of power-by-proxy that the Carlyle group has is stomach churning. I'm not aware of the Clintons having that sort of link to any buisness interests, but I still don't think it's a good idea.
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spag68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:27 PM
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8. Political familys
I think you are a rethug spy, trying to stir up sentiment against Hillary. I don't think any thinking dem. will fall for the bs that the rovian fundys dream up any more.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:40 PM
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10. Right there with ya spag!
Hillary, with all of her great qualities and faults, is so much better than what we have now, or ANYTHING that the Grand Ole Pedophiles can EVER come up with!!

Do we have someone better? That is what the primary process is about. We will argue, cuss, bite and fight. And then pick a nominee that we will vote for.

I am not a member of an organized political party....

I AM A DEMOCRAT and PROUD OF IT!!
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BlueAwards Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:48 PM
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17. ???
I clearly said the question had nothing to with her personally... just the concept of having two families in power for so long. I don't think that is a remotely irrational question to ask - any good democrat would consider it, as we should.

I have mixed feelings about it as I said in the post.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 10:26 PM
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24. Ok.....I understand.
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BlueAwards Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 06:45 PM
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16. That's just ridiculous
My goodness! This was as innocent a post as one could be. I have started an organization to recognize good democrats, the last thing I am is remotely conservative and I take great offense at the accusation.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:42 PM
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11. It's inherently unhealthy
Edited on Wed Apr-12-06 03:43 PM by Tom Rinaldo
But it could become a far lesser evil in 2008 if Hillary gets the nomination than letting the Republicans hold onto the Presidency for another four years. They can tie her to Bill if they think that will hurt her, but they can't play the political family card after just running a father and son team.

I don't think this is a trivial concern at all. It is taking politics by name recognition to a whole other and increasingly dangerous level. It's related to the reason why Action Movie Stars and Professional Wrestlers are getting elected to be Governors.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:48 PM
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12. No - but if it were the Kennedy's the current crop that thinks it's dandy
would be foaming at the mouth!

I voted "No" altho I just have major trouble with REPUKE families, not Democratic ones.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:52 PM
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13. Yes
If the American people VOTE for it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:08 PM
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20. wow
that is, like, so democratic
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 05:13 AM
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28. A unique approach, I know. We should try it.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 03:59 PM
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14. In their Arkansas days, Bill and Hillary were known as "Billary"
because if you got one, you automatically get the other one.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:01 PM
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18. Fine, so Billary was President for 8 yrs already
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:32 PM
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21. Yup, that's how I see it, too.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 07:04 PM
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19. Hell fucking NO!
What is this? England?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:00 PM
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22. Well, WE voted for them...
...it's called Democracy (or, if you prefer, a representative Republic)...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 09:02 PM
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23. Where's the "FUCK NO!" option
I suppose the simple negative will have to do.
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-12-06 11:18 PM
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26. I voted NO!
I liked Bill Clinton a lot, but the Clintons have changed. Look at how Bill is always doing things with Poppy Bush. If Hillary gets elected, things would not be much better than they were under W. As far as I'm concerned, the Clintons have joined the BFEE by association.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:08 AM
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29. i didnt like bush. still this was another reason i didnt want him
i am fine wit hillary, yet still this is a strong reason i oppose having her as president. no.... i dont want two family rule. and almost feels like they have worked this out. does jeb come in after hillary. and then chelsey after jeb. i mean wtf....
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-13-06 09:55 AM
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30. as an aside
is it OK for the filthy rich to control the white house and congress for the past 230 years, and forseeable future? i think not
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