I've Heard Talk About * Possibly Pulling An October Surprise And....

[global1]

attack Iran. I'm thinking that if in fact he did do it - that it would seal the fate of the Repug party for the Nov '06 elections and I don't believe that people will support the Repugs because of *'s actions.

The Repugs would lose big time and the reason would be *. Blame it on the Bush (*).

So I'm thinking a strategy we could employ today is to put the word out that if * does in fact pull an October surprise - that it would backfire big time for him and the Repug party.

If the word gets around to enough Repugs that the American people would retaliate against the Repugs - maybe - just maybe - they could put a stop to *'s insanity.

[CoffeeCat]

1. You make a really good point...

...the only way to beat them at this Iran insanity--is to predict what they will do, and shout very loud about it.

Make the Republicans look really stupid.

The Dems should be screaming, "Just like with Iraq, pretty soon, we'll hear worse-case scenarios about Iran and about "imminent threats" made with "darn good intelligence." We'll hear about "slam-dunk" assertions. Ladies and gentlemen...is America willing to trust the same cast of characters who got Iraq completely wrong? Do we really want to go down this road again?"

We have to beat them at their own game. Make their rhetoric look hollow and ridiculous.

I hope the Dems have the cajones to do this. I'll hope for the best.

[babylonsister]

2. October, how about April?

Chill, I think. They aren't that stupid, I hope.

[wake.up.america]

3. "Vote Republican , vote for War!!" That should do the trick!

[madeline_con]

6. That would just encourage the Repug vote. n/t

[wake.up.america]

17. Yikes!!!

[wookie294]

4. I don't believe Bush will attack Iran before November

But ... if Bush can orchestrate a FAKE unprovoked Iranian attack on U.S. forces in October, the American people will be 100% behind him. If Iran "attacks" U.S. vessels, for example, America will keep congressional Republicans in power in November. The question is -- will the American people believe the bogus "Gulf of Tonkin" attack from the Iranians?

[Fun Doom Mentalist]

7. they don't care about elections--they have Deibold

and I would bet the WILL pull a terra "event" any day just to spark up that good ol Patriotic spirit!
:patriot:

[newyawker99]

20. Hi Fun Doom Mentalist!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Fun Doom Mentalist]

23. thanks newyawker99 !

:hi:

[Fun Doom Mentalist]

8. they don't care about elections--they have Deibold

and I would bet the WILL pull a terra "event" any day just to spark up that good ol Patriotic spirit!
:patriot:

[still_one]

5. Here is the problem with that

bush and company actually could care less about the republicans, and more about his agenda

They know they are vulnerable in November, and they believe that "ONLY THEY" have the "courage" to attack Iran

This is what makes them so dangerous

The question is this, can he attack Iran without going through Congress?

If the answer is yes, then the Democrats better do their job this time, and not allow what happened to Iraq happen to Iran

On the other hand if the answer is no, then we are all screwed, especially if they use tactical nukes

Iran is NOT going to be like Iraq, expect silk worm missles to be headed for the refinaries in Saudi Arabia, Missles to be headed for Israel, and the Shia in Iraq to rise up against the Americans

This would have the potential to trigger a world war, along with worldwide economic collapse due to surging oil prices

[IntravenousDemilo]

9. Did you mix up your "answer is yes" and "answer is no" just now?

Can he attack without going through Congress? If the answer is NO, HE CAN'T, then the Democrats better do their job. If the answer is YES, HE CAN, then we're all screwed.

[still_one]

12. yup thats what I did, thanks

do you know the answer, can he attack Iran without going through Congress?

[IntravenousDemilo]

13. No idea. I'm not from your country so it's unfamiliar territory.

But I do know what I'd like the answer to be.

[CPMaz]

14. Constitutionally, no

unfortunately, this president and his administration have no respect for the Constitution.

FYI - the last time that Congress declared war (that I can find anyway) was December 11, 1941. There have been many 'wars' since then, but they weren't Wars. Conflicts, police actions, peacekeeping missions, etc., but no official, declared Wars.

Hell, they may get around Constitutional requirements by detaching the Army (etc.) to Halliburton and awarding them a no-bid "foreign pacification" (or some other euphemism) contract.

Not that I'm a cynic or anything...lol

[Arkham House]

18. He can do anything he damned well wants to--

--and he knows no one will hold him to account. I also don't buy any of these arguments as to how he may--or may not--be preparing this for political reasons. This is a truly delusional man, in fact a psychopath, and he'll do what "God" wants him to do...whenever he feels the time is right...and my feeling is that "God" wants him to strike long before October...:-(...

[still_one]

21. unfortunately, that is pretty much the point I was trying to make

[MercutioATC]

10. Can we let the (random election date) thing GO already??

1) Politicians historically try to make themselves (and their party) look better in election years.

2) That's just common sense politicking, not a conspiracy.

3) We always squeal about an "October surprise" but it never happens.

For chrissakes, can we let this issue go?

[gumby]

11. Hostages held in Iran for the benefit of the Reagan

campaign was not a conspiracy. It really happened.

The bombing of Iraq was timed to coincide with electoral politics. Tens of thousands of Iraqis were killed. It wasn't a conspiracy. It really happened.

It seems that Republican "common sense politicking" often includes death, destruction and hostages. It's not a conspiracy. These atrocities really happen.

[Neil Lisst]

15. I don't think Bush will wait until October

Bush is desperate to pull a Harry Truman, and he's got an itchy trigger finger. His addictive personality needs a fix - a new and bigger war.

[APPLE314]

16. Don't worry- we can pay for it with Iran's oil. well, maybe we can . n/t

[blm]

19. They control most media - the storyline would be the country rallying

around the president. Then they'll rig the districts they're worried about.

[L. Coyote]

22. Change the rhetoric

Why isn't someone standing up for a nation's right to produce energy? We have the right to produce nuclear fuel for our power plants, right? Why isn't someone getting into Condi's face on that basis?

Since when do we have international laws that discriminate between us and "others."

The whole thing is ridiculous. Iran is right. They are doing what we do, producing nuclear fuel. What's good for the Gander...

The problem is the rhetoric that pushes them towards needing a nuke!!

Why isn't there a US Senator calling out the Neo Con-artists on their BULL-* rhetoric?

[Minnesota Libra]

24. Expect that or something similar just before the elections nt