Got a robo call about parental notice for abortions for minors here in Cal

[caligirl]

Got it tonight. They tell you its for a petition to put on the ballot for parents to be notified if their minor daughter goes to get an abortion. The recorded caller tells you to press 1 if you want to sign or two if you don't. Once you press 2 he says you won't get bothered again.

I called the 888 number back and got the same recorded caller. Thye number if you want to test it out was 1 888 236 0296.
I have no idea if a live person comes on if you press one to sign nor can i figure out how you would sign it over the phone. But getting a live person could make for interesting 'dialogue'.

[Tom Joad]

1. Me too, cali. Suggested action.

Posted in the california forum

Here is the group funding this idiocy.
http://www.parentsright2know.org/pages/1/index.htm

Let's all request petitions to sign. As many as possible to be mailed to our homes... offices, whereever. Then recycle them. In pieces. Straight to the recycle bin.

You might want to mail them and have them send stuff for you to take to your church. ask for a dozen. Recycle those when they arrive. Let's keep this idiocy off the ballot. We just said no. What part didn't they understand?

[Suich]

2. I just called the number .

He kept referring to your "young daughter"; the guy gave me the creeps.

[MercutioATC]

3. "War is peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is strength"

The 1-888 recording says that the ballot initiative is designed to "protect children".

The whole idea of not notifying parents about abortions is completely misunderstood by most. (disclaimer: I'm speaking about Ohio law...state laws differ)

Parents ARE required to give consent for an abortion procedure on a minor, UNLESS the minor petitions a court of law and can satisfy that court that there is valid reason for the parents to NOT be notified. Be aware, the court is predisposed to NOTIFY the parents unless it's given a compelling reason to not do so.

This law exists to PROTECT children from abusive (sometimes sexually abusive) parents. To claim that abolishing it "protects children" is unconscionable.

[PublicWrath]

4. Parental consent. I don't get it.

It's just permission for fathers to call their daughters sluts,
threaten them with expulsion from the home, impose their own values on a daughter whose life is going to be affected forever. It allows parents to threaten their daughters with disenheritance. It's permission for a certain type of brute to say "well, she's already busted, I'll get a little, too." It allows misty-eyed parents to decide what fun it be to have a baby in house again, and apply their veto to a decision that belongs to the young woman who's going to be stuck with the consequences, and end her youth and freedom. (My mother knew a woman who did just that to a girl who was forced to provide a squeezable new baby for her own mother's entertainment.) Forcing a birth on a young girl still at home allows her parents to co-opt the child and hold their daughter in a state of bondage through the power the grandparents have over both daughter and her child. And not all the young women are strong enough to face embarassment in front of a judge.

[MercutioATC]

5. There's another side to the coin...

Parents, with some exceptions, have the responsibility and the right to raise their children as they see fit. A 15-year-old needs parental consent to get her ears pierced. Our society generally feels pretty strongly about this.

I'm not sure parental consent is a bad thing in 90% of cases...it's the other 10% we need to provide a safety mechanism for.

[Maat]

6. Parental notification is required unless there is a judicial bypass.

This is most probably an attempt to get language into the bill defining a "right to life" at conception. The anti-reproductive-rights crowed is trying to weaken our law.

[Warren DeMontague]

8. It shouldn't be legislated, period. Because the 10% who don't have

decent communication with their parents are PRECISELY the ones who are going to suffer b/c of these laws.

It's like Alito's idiotic ruling saying women had to talk to their husbands to get an abortion. Know what? I wouldn't want to be in a marriage where my wife wouldn't talk to me about something like that-- but I sure as FUCK don't want the government getting involved, no way, no how.

Want your kids to talk to you if they're in trouble or pregnant? Great- Then raise them to feel comfortable communicating about things like that with you.

[Warren DeMontague]

10. "our society generally feels pretty strongly about this"

http://www.smartvoter.org/2005/11/08/ca/state/prop/73/


(Of course, these jackasses are at it again, a little more than five months later.)

Proposition 73
Waiting Period and Parental Notification Before Termination of Minor's Pregnancy
State of California
Initiative Constitutional Amendment - Majority Approval Required

Fail: 3,610,475 / 47.3% Yes votes ...... 4,023,840 / 52.7% No votes

Maybe YOUR society "generally feels pretty strongly" in favor of this.

Mine doesn't.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. I'm glad you like the laws you have in YOUR state.

Keep 'em there.

California is a pro-choice state, and we don't appreciate these bullshit backdoor attempts to criminalize or impede access to reproductive choice.

[GRLMGC]

11. Exactly

They tried this shit before and they sure as hell aren't gonna succeed this time. I still have a bit of faith left.

[Warren DeMontague]

7. I got one, too. Yelled "FUCK YOU" into the phone, even though it was a

recording...


then I decided that I would donate $25 to planned parenthood for each one I receive.

Assholes.