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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:55 PM
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Clinton gave Nuke Tech to Iran?
Bill Clinton and CIA Gave Iranians Blueprint for Nuclear Bomb
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By Jim Kouri
Apr 14, 2006

Last night, radio talk show host and former US Justice Department official Mark Levin shocked many listeners when he reported that President Bill Clinton gave nuclear technology to the Iranians in a harebrained scheme.

He said that the transfer of classified data to Iran was personally approved by then-President Clinton and that the CIA deliberately gave Iranian physicists blueprints for part of a nuclear bomb that likely helped Tehran advance its nuclear weapons development program.

The CIA, using a double-agent Russian scientist, handed a blueprint for a nuclear bomb to Iran, according to a new book "State of War" by James Risen, the New York Times reporter, who exposed the Bush administration's controversial NSA spying operation, claims the plans contained fatal flaws designed to derail Tehran's nuclear drive.

But the deliberate errors were so rudimentary they would have been easily fixed by sophisticated Russian nuclear scientists, the book said.

The operation, which took place during the Clinton administration in early 2000, was code named Operation Merlin and "may have been one of the most reckless operations in the modern history of the CIA," according to Risen.

It called for the unnamed scientist, a defector from the Soviet Union, to offer Iran the blueprint for a "firing set" -- the intricate mechanism which triggers the chain reaction needed for a nuclear explosion.

The Russian was told by CIA officers that the Iranians already had the technology detailed in the plans and that the ruse was simply an attempt by the agency to find out the full scope of Tehran's nuclear knowledge.

But, contrary to orders not to open the packet, he added a note which made it clear he could help fix the flaws for money.

Risen states in his book, "It's not clear who originally came up with the idea, but the plan was first approved by Clinton."

This is just another chapter in the Bill Clinton saga of giving weapons technology to enemies of the United States. He's provided missile technology to the Chinese, which increased the accuracy of their ballistic missiles, and he provided nuclear technology to the North Koreans that eventually enabled them to develop nuclear weapons.

Risen said the Clinton-approved plan ended up handing Tehran "one of the greatest engineering secrets in the world, providing the solution to one of a handful of problems that separated nuclear powers such as the United States and Russia from rogue countries such as Iran that were desperate to join the nuclear club but had so far fallen short."

Mark Levin, director of the Landmark Legal Foundation, said that thanks to Clinton Iran was able to "leapfrog one of the last remaining engineering hurdles blocking its path to a nuclear weapon."

Ironically, Risen's New York Times has declined to cover Mr. Clinton's Iranian nuclear debacle -- concentrating instead on his book's dubious claims that the National Security Agency was first authorized to commence domestic wiretapping by President Bush, according to NewsMax and Levin.

NewsMax stated that Risen's report could also have a serious implications for Sen. Hillary Clinton's 2008 presidential campaign. Mrs. Clinton has been sharply critical of President Bush's handling of the Iranian nuclear crisis, complaining that a nuclear-armed Tehran would be a much more serious threat to the US than Iraq. However, NewsMax may be proven wrong about Sen. Clinton if the news media continue to ignore this story.

"Don't hold your breath waiting for the elite media to create a frenzy over this story. They will never hurt either Clintons with such a damning report," says former intelligence officer Sid Francis.

Jim Kouri, CPP is currently fifth vice-president of the National Association of Chiefs of Police and he's a staff writer for the New Media Alliance (thenma.org).

www.rawstory.com

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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:57 PM
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1. IIRC Newsmax was one of the loudest voices in the hunting of Clinton
during his presidency.

and I should believe this drek now ?why? exactly?

they are known liars and Clinton bashers
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 02:59 PM
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2. Huh?
Right-wing blame Clinton gang is at it again. "Everything is Clinton's fault."
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:00 PM
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3. this seems more like
it was the CIA's fault than Clinton's.
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:01 PM
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4. Newsmax
Might as well be Regenery
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:03 PM
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5. He meant FORD, DICK CHENEY, RUMSFELD, WOLFOWITZ...
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 03:05 PM by LynnTheDem
Cheney, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and outgoing Deputy Secretary Paul Wolfowitz held key national security posts when the Ford administration made the opposite argument 30 years ago. Ford's team endorsed Iranian plans to build a massive nuclear energy industry, but also worked hard to complete a multibillion-dollar deal that would have given Tehran control of large quantities of plutonium and enriched uranium -- the two pathways to a nuclear bomb.

Iran, a U.S. ally then, had deep pockets and close ties to Washington. U.S. companies, including Westinghouse and General Electric, scrambled to do business there.

...the United States tried to accommodate Iranian demands for plutonium reprocessing, which produces the key ingredient of a bomb.

After balking initially, President Gerald R. Ford signed a directive in 1976 offering Tehran the chance to buy and operate a U.S.-built reprocessing facility for extracting plutonium from nuclear reactor fuel. The deal was for a complete "nuclear fuel cycle" -- reactors powered by and regenerating fissile materials on a self-sustaining basis.

That is precisely the ability the current administration is trying to prevent Iran from acquiring today.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3983-2005Mar26.html


Oh yeah, definitely was Clinton. :eyes:
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:09 PM
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6. Gee. I thought he was too busy raping and killing hookers back then
Edited on Fri Apr-14-06 03:12 PM by Strawman
or something like that. I'll bet he stored the secrets in the Clenis.
:sarcasm:

more red meat for that "paranoid strain" of the population who will believe ANYTHING bad about Clinton. For $19.99 they can buy the book from Scaife Press and get the "real dirt" on just how evil Clinton truly was.

"Ow! I just stubbed my toe. That goddamn Clinton!"
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:10 PM
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7. Uh, hold on there.
"The CIA, using a double-agent Russian scientist, handed a blueprint for a nuclear bomb to Iran, according to a new book "State of War" by James Risen, the New York Times reporter, who exposed the Bush administration's controversial NSA spying operation, claims the plans contained fatal flaws designed to derail Tehran's nuclear drive.

But the deliberate errors were so rudimentary they would have been easily fixed by sophisticated Russian nuclear scientists, the book said."

Step 1. create bogus but passable plans for the trigger.

Step 2. enlist russian nuclear scientist to deliver said plans to Iranians.

Step 3. russian nuclear scientist offers to fix up the plans for money.

OK. I call bullshit. If the russian scientist knows enough to fix up the plans he knows wnough to deliver the trigger plans all on his own without the CIA to start with.

How about Iran got all the data it needed from the Pakistanis (AJ Khan) who were selling it to anyone who wanted it? I mean really, there is no big secret about where and how nuclear weapons technology got spread.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:32 PM
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18. I've read AQ Khan as well as the source
The source for this article is not credible - why is it posted without some comments that it is likely bogus and a rw source (there is value knowing their sources.

(It being AQ Khan puts some blame on Bush 1 and Clinton - BCCI funded Khan's bomb - if they continued the investigation it would have helped.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:12 PM
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8. Why is rawstory.com publishing this crap? Landmark Legal and
NewsMax? Two of the 'Get Clinton' crowd from 1992 onward?

"Founded in 1976, Landmark Legal Foundation is the premiere public interest law firm fighting for conservative principles in America. No legal group has been as successful as Landmark at protecting individual rights, challenging the scope and authority of government, defending free enterprise and exposing teachers' union fraud"
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:46 PM
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10. Richard Melon-head Scaife outfits
Comparing even what Scaife's people said Clinton did, to what chimpie has actually done, is like something from The Wizard of Oz.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 03:36 PM
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9. Chene-brain
Isn't that what Cheney was recently indicted for in France? Halliburton's supplying of nuke materials to Iran? Or am I making mixed metaphors of my scandal knowledge? It's so hard to keep it all straight. Luckily, Halliburton finally closed the doors of its unmarked, secrte office in Tehran a year or so ago; no doubt they got a call from Dick.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:06 PM
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11. Mark Levin was on the front line of right wing talking heads calling for
Clinton's impeachment. His sources for research on this issue are suspect at best.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:11 PM
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12. I believe it was Halliburton, and it was sold, not given (of course)
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:15 PM
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13. speaking of a "damning report," Cheney & H'burton sold Iran nuke tech
one of Octafish's great reports on BFEE, on the DU Greatest Page right NOW:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x928662

let the RW shit-stains explain THAT one.
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:19 PM
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14. Did they mention....
that the operation was supposed to throw a monkey wrench in Iran's nuclear endeavors?

Or that the first Bush administration continued to endorse the program?

I didn't think so.
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NativeTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:26 PM
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15. Yeah, this is some of the same............
.....idiots that Clinton's Arkansas enemies went to as soon as he MENTIONED going national!!

In other words.....one of the early pieces of the vast right-wing conspiracy! (And yes, there was one.)
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 04:27 PM
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16. Accordingly Clinton gave away the store to China also!
What a bunch of right wing bullshit.
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Rocknrule Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 05:11 PM
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17. Clinton was the 20th hijacker, too
:sarcasm:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-14-06 08:34 PM
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19. and he parachuted out at the last minute?
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