Possible Hillary scandal brewing?

[jackbourassa]

Many of you may have heard of Anthony Pelicano. He is this Los Angeles based private detective, who searches for "dirt" (by less than legal ways) on people at the behest of Movie stars and moguls alike. Well apparently, according to this article in "Editor and Publisher," Pelicano had the Clintons as clients as well. He was often called during the "bimbo eruptions" of the 1990s, and would be assigned the task of finding "dirt" on the women making accusations.

Hillary implicated.

Check out the article:

"What's Missing in the media's Pelicano File?"

www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/shoptalk_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002198298

[Delphinus]

1. I read so much in so many places,

but someone, somewhere, just recently had talk of her laundering money in one of the Caribbean islands.

[NativeTexan]

38. The low life repugs started early on Bill too! PI's are.....

...money and headlines whores, when you find them at the celebrity level. Weigh it with a grain of salt.

[Delphinus]

41. Oh, I agree!

I didn't put ANY stock in it whatsoever, but when the Original Poster put out that question, I thought this might be what they were starting with.

[NativeTexan]

47. Agreed....

[jackbourassa]

71. Look guys i'm not endorsing this...

I just found it today and wanted to share the information. It could be a "GOP hit job" or it could be the truth.

Notice that I used a question mark at the end of Possible Hillary Scandal...

[Jayhawk Lib]

44. OH NO!!

Please don't let it be Hillary. This has got to be a smear job by the Repubs. I am sure Hillary would not be any part or have anything to do with a scumbag like Anthony Pelicano.

[baldguy]

58. She killed the Easter Bunny too.

Hit & run apparently.

[DainBramaged]

61. And Santa Claus, the Thanksgiving turkey, and all the eagles

[bluestateguy]

2. Fo those of us who don't want her as the nominee

a scandal might actually be a good thing. The trick is not to let it derail her reelection to the senate this year. But at this point, I find myself in the unusualy position of rooting for a Hillary scandal to stop her from getting the Democratic presidential nomination.

[xultar]

6. How great for a DUer t o do that o a Dem.

[MissWaverly]

35. Let the truth out now

I am not willing to excuse unethical behavior in Hiliary, we went through enough pain over her husband's scandals. Do you honestly believe that George W. Bush would be sitting in the White House now if it was not for Monica.

[DainBramaged]

36. HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T A HIT PIECE

How can you assume she's done anything wrong?????????????????


What the hell is wrong with everybody?/ Our purpose is defeating the Right, NOT OURSELVES.

[MissWaverly]

45. Look I don't care if Karl Rove wrote it personally

Let the sunshine in, have her deal with it, not like Kerry who ignored the swift-boaters,
do you think that the Republicans are going to play nice, not this crew. They use muck
to destroy the debate about their record. Step up to the plate, and hit the ball back
into their bleachers.

[karynnj]

49. Kerry did fight back

Hind sight makes things easier to see. What really hurt him was that the media treated lies- that Kerry and the official records showed to be lies - as "worthy of question." Remember how quickly the TANG story - where there was back up to many claims - dried up the instant some documents couldn't be authenticated. There was no precedent for how Kerry was treated.

Also, consider hwo the media gave tacit approval - by not reacting at all to mocking Kerry's wounds with the purple heart band aids. (I saw one interview where Vanessa Kerry was obviously appalled by that.)

[MissWaverly]

52. Look, the Republicans ran the 2004 election cycle

it was about their spin, their frame, it was not about failure to find WMD's or any one of a
hundred goof ups of the administrtion or the Republican congress. I also do not find it a coincidence that the legal process has really not caught up with Karl Rove, Dick Cheney,
Tom DeLay, Scooter Libby or any one a countless Republicans who should have been tried and sentenced now for wrong doing, who are still posturing for the camera. You may also include Mr. Noe, Mr. Ney and Gov. Taft in that category. Why hasn't Gov. Taft been forced to resign or been disbarred? Not to mentioned the fact that it took 4 years to convict someone on phone
jamming charge in 2002. There's enough fodder from Republican corruption to cover the state of
Texas, why is there silence, there has only been a trickle of criticism from the Dems for what
has been going on. The Democrats should hit hard, answer back hard and start giving them
the truth.

[karynnj]

81. With control of both houses of Corngress, the Presidency

and a complicit media, it's very hard to make much noise. If a tree falls in the forest and no one hears, did it make a noise?

Kerry himself agrees that he shouls have gone out of the federal campaign finacing - because he had 13 weeks to strech the money over compared to Bush's 8 weeks. (This would have been a problem - Kerry and Wellstone had the clean election bill, designed to really reform campaign financing - so the Republicans would have had a field day with this.) The inequity was an unintended flaw in the McCain/Feingold bill. @004 was the first year it was in affect.

As it was, if the media did it's job that story would have backfired.

[July]

84. The media gave the Smear Boaters credibility, as you point out.

And the GOP trotted out Poppy, Laura, Dole, and God knows who else to suggest that "there must be something to it" when the Smear Boaters were making noise. The media failed to do their jobs when they didn't give Kerry's response, the Navy's response, and Kerry's boatmates' response more attention, not to mention when they didn't discuss the funding, history, and organization of the Smear Boaters.

[DainBramaged]

53. BUT WHY IS IT NECESSARY TO DISCUSS IT HERE????

It's an old hit piece, and there was NO reason for it to be dragged out here yet again except by Freepers who want to stir up shit on these boards.

[CTyankee]

55. Yes! DAMNIT, I AM SO SICK OF THIS!!

The whole "bimbo eruption" thing had its life cycle WAY back when Bill was running first time. Everyone should remember "Primary Colors" for cryin' out loud! OLD news.

Second, Dems should also remember that Hillary was investigated up the wazoo by Ken Starr's office. It was over 4 years long, cost millions, and he had an army of lawyers and investigators armed with subpoena powers. A huge expenditure of money, time and resources. And guess what they found at the end of this travesty: NOTHING!!! Not one single allegation led to any charges whatsover against Hillary, from the Rose Law firm records, to travelgate, to Whitewater.

We're left with what? A bj in the White House. Well, the world has turned on its axis many times since then and the US and the world has been treated to what the Republicans can do: we got this endless war in Iraq and the scary threat of one in Iran, Katrina, lying, deceit and the treasonous outing of a CIA operative working on WMDs for crass political cover up.

Focus. Eyes on the prize. Focus!

[av8tor05]

85. Oh please.

Are we not adult enough here to discus all manner of topics. We may not agree with some of them but burying our heads in the sand will only result in surprise attacks we are not ready for. I say lets get all of the smears out in the open so that we the party can have an informed debate and select the best candidate. We do not want to select (or have the party machine select) our candidates only to have dirt surface on them during the general election. That is inviting disaster.

[DainBramaged]

91. This smear has been out for quite a while, why repeat it now?

March 17, 2006. And if you go waaayyyyyy down in this thread, I've listed some of Lipscomb's other work as he tried to assist in the Swiftboating of John Kerry.

There's noting to see here, unless you WANT to see it just to Swiftboat Hillary.

[av8tor05]

94. I am not saying it should be discussed here,

What I am saying is that no topic should be off limits. I know it is a slight difference, if someone does not want to read it the thread will die on its own.

[xultar]

48. They don't give a fuck. Worse than rethugs and freepers in my book.

[FiveGoodMen]

99. Is Hillary a Dem? I'll have to keep reminding myself.

[KittyWampus]

11. Don't worry. YOUR favored candidate will have their own bogus scandal

thrown at them.

[CrispyQ]

13. I agree.

Every time I hear the pundits & media touting Hillary as our prez candidate I realize they want her to be our candidate. Although, thanks to electronic voting, we may not have much say.

My repuke mother hated Bill but she loathes Hillary even more. As disgusted as she is with the current administration she told me she will simply not vote before she votes dem, "unless Hillary runs. I'll vote for anyone over Hillary." I think that sentiment runs very deep on the other side.

[madeline_con]

30. "... they want her to be our candidate..."

That's the message I get from the Right, also. Like she's being served to us, so she can be attacked and discredited, and whomever the Repugs trot out to run the country will win in '08. :(

[mtnsnake]

37. Why do you & so many others let the Right Wing push you around?

Have you ever thought that your're getting the message they WANT you to get?

[ldf]

56. obviously it would be best for all concerned

if your mother DID sit at home.

more of her type should do just that.

[DainBramaged]

18. You are a credit to DU and Liberals everywhere

I think self-loathing wannabees should find a place where Hilliry bashing is a sport. I deeply resent your words, and this thread.

I would assume that if she did win the nomination, you'd be thrilled so you could work for the Right?

[jackbourassa]

72. DainBramaged, you hate this thread so much that...

You replied 15 times to it. Strange.

This is a legitimate thing to talk about. I don't know if there is any truth to it, but I found the article today and posted it wondering what others thought.

The whole line of defense from Clinton supporters that we ignore every possible bad thing ever said about Hillary Clinton because the Republicans are saying it to is simply undemocratic.

Stop telling us what to say and who to support. We can think for ourselves thank you very much. If I find an article that is negative about Hillary, and if I think it has some implications for our possible electoral success, I will proudly write about it. Now get off your high horse.

[goclark]

95. Speak DainBramaged!

I ain't about to start bashing the Senator.

If she gets the nomination, I will work like hell for HER.

My choice is to bash her, like they want US to do or work like anything to get a DEMOCRAT in that WH.

They are so afraid of her because they know they will have TWO Clintons in the WH and that would be fine with me!

[mtnsnake]

22. If you can't beat her any other way, a scandal is fine by you. Great.

How sickening.

[madeline_con]

27. I have to agree.

The Dems can do better for a Pres. Candidate.

She'll just make Repugs chortle, and the undecided run to vote for the nearest neocon. Bad news.

[DainBramaged]

39. Knowing that you hate Hillary, I decided to ignore you

Trying to defeat or cause the defeat of ANY of our candidates is tantamount to sleeping with Newt Gingrich.

Go to hell.

[StClone]

42. Scandals on all of the Dem candidates would be good

Very poor strategy in taking Hillary down.

[bluestateguy]

46. I would vote for her if she was the nominee

I guess some people like to build straw men and say that I said something that I did not say.

I'd vote for her if she were nominated, which is more than can be said for all of the people (many of whom are here at DU) who would pick up their marbles and vote Green if she were the nominee.

But I will do everything I can to defeat her from being the nominee. I support her reelection to the Senate.

[IndianaGreen]

100. I don't want Hillary as the nominee, but

I am not about to embrace another Arkansas Project!

These people are total scums!

[rooboy]

3. At least she'd be reaching out to republicans if it were true... :) n/t

[MADem]

4. Oh, NOOOOOO!!! The GOP will be friken DEVASTATED!!!!!

Because she won't run if she doesn't think she has a serious, good odds, shot...and she's their major fundraising tool!!!

Who will they villfy if they don't have Hill to kick around anymore??

I still would like to see a DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT appoint JUSTICE RODHAM to the Supreme Court...just to see their little heads EXPLODE!!!!

[CrispyQ]

14. Now that would be nice!!!

:hi:

[bluedeminredstate]

16. That puts a smile on my face!

I never thought of it before, but I like it. :)

[ldf]

57. THAT would be fun to watch.

Justice Rodham does have a nice ring to it. Chief Justice, even nicer.

[OKNancy]

5. month old article by

Thomas Lipscomb a right wing hack. The same Lipscomb who loved the Swift Boat stories.
Whatever..

Edit -
I love the American Spectator article:
http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6980

[WePurrsevere]

34. Good catch.Thank you for pointing out that the writer is a RW hack.

:yourock:

[no_hypocrisy]

7. This illustrates my concern that Hillary is open to attack by her enemies

if she runs for President. The past history of her husband's indiscretions versus his contributions to this country will be predominant and deafen the ears of the electorate. It would be feeding dry timber to the republicans as far as resurrecting the moral foibles of #42. As much as I hate to say this, Bill Clinton as husband of a presidential running mate could be a real liability to her campaign.

[DainBramaged]

19. She and Bill have enemies here, so sad

[mtnsnake]

23. Your "concern"? The RW might have you running for shelter, but not her

They throw a stone at her, she returns the favor by hurling back a brick. Why do you think they're so friggin afraid of her? She fights back. You should learn to do the same instead of cowering at the thought that she'll be "open to attack by her enemies".

[SaveElmer]

90. Yes..and Kerry's lack of the same attacks in his past...

Really helped him out with the Swift Boaters didn't it. Fact is Hilalry is probably in a better position because so many (read all) of these alleged scandals about Hillary have been proven false that people no longer believe anything scandalous they hear about her

[still_one]

8. The main reason I will NOT vote for Hillary

is because she will get a lot more Americans and Iraqiis killed with her position on the war

[DainBramaged]

20. So then it's ok with you for Republicans to maintain power?

How many of our mothers and Fathers, sisters and brothers, sons and daughters has Bush killed? How many has Hillary, and betting the farm on a maybe is just plain ignorant.

[still_one]

64. oh please don't tell me that hillary is the best we have to offer

how many jobs have been off-shored because of the clinton NAFTA policy which sold out our workers to the corporations

Hillary was right out front supporting this Iraq war, and now the only excuse she uses is we were misled. CORRECTION, she was misled, most of the straight thinkers knew we were being lied to. Now she says we can't leave?

If you want to vote for someone who BELIEVES we can win in Iraq, then be my guest, but I remember Nam, and the same B.S. was said then also.

I will not be an accomplice to voting for someone who wants to continue this policy on either side.

[Name removed]

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[mtnsnake]

24. So enabling the Republican to win is better? nt

[MADem]

50. Let's assume she runs and wins

Strictly for the purposes of this discussion, mind you (I am not convinced that she has made up her mind yet; and I think she is more likely to not run).

If her strategy isn't "run center right, rule center left" I would be very surprised indeed.

[still_one]

66. and if that is what happens, even though I would not have voted for her

that would be great, AS LONG AS SHE REALIZES that the longer we stay in Iraq more people will die

[still_one]

65. maybe we should nominate a candidate that stands for FDR values

for a change

I will NOT support ANYONE who wants to stay the course in Iraq, and believes that it can be won. They do NOT understand the history or the culture. It will be blood on your hands NOT mine if you vote for someone like that.

I will NOT DRINK THE KoolAide like the repukes do, and vote for whatever crap their party puts up

[KittyWampus]

9. There is absolutely NO basis for the deduction Hillary dealt with Pelicano

here is what the author uses for his rationale in linking the two:

"Numerous unbiased accounts of the Clintons have repeatedly stressed the importance of Hillary’s role in having the good sense to understand the danger the “bimbo eruptions” represented to her blasé husband and to deal with them before they got out of hand."

So because Hillary understood the need to deal with Scaife's well funded campaign to assassinate Bill Clinton's character, she's guilty of hiring Pelicano directly and, by this author's implication, guilty of killing someone's cat etc etc.

So this is "shoptalk" at E&P. Certainly NOT reporting. I'm tempted to find out what this opinion piece's author has penned in the past.

[DainBramaged]

25. This is just another Hillary bashing thread , plain and simple

[norml]

10. Some scandal, hiring a detective back in the 90s to find dirt.

Besides, who cares that much about Hillary, except for the right wing media clowns?

[KittyWampus]

12. And to find dirt about people Scaife was paying to slander Bill

[peacetalksforall]

15. If would be convenient for Republicans to find a HC scandal about

every five weeks from now until Nov 2008 or her re-election.

They have been pairing up McCain and Clinton against each other for years. The more they can make her look bad, the better for his unstable integrity with the crossover crowd.

I was her defender for over a decade. They just keep trying.

(A defender, but not a HC for Pres supporter.)

[OzarkDem]

17. More innuendo, w/o facts

Same old same old when it comes to media treatment of the Clintons. Rumor and innuendo first, facts much later, when no one is listening.

What this article conveniently leaves out is the fact that William Scaife and others had set up a virtual anti-clinton corporation that dug up information, distorted it, bribed people to lie and used it to launch government investigations and lawsuits, while distributing the smear campaigns via their own publishing empire and media network.

If Hillary hired a single PI to investigate the allegations being made by the employees of right wing moguls like Scaife, then I would praise her. That would be the smartest thing she could have done and was a very small effort conducted against a multi-million dollar operation.

[0007]

60. I gotta laugh everytime I hear some of these lies.

[DainBramaged]

21. What is your purpose in posting this Jack, stiring up shit?

Don't like Hillary? Love Bush? Hmmmm.

[jackbourassa]

74. DainBramaged, I was putting it out there....

Perhaps we should become mindless robots like the Republicans and just accept whatever the powers that be tell us to. Perhaps that would satisfy you. You seem to have adopted this mantra for yourself. How sad.

You should immediately remove that union avatar. You bring it much shame.

[DainBramaged]

76. Do not play FAUX News games with me here

A month ago this mindless palp was puked on these forums. You bring it again for no valid purpose.

[jackbourassa]

86. I forgot you were the judge of what can or can not be posted...

That seems to go with the territory of being a Clinton supporter. You can tell the rest of us lowly Democrats what we can or can not say. What we can or can not think. I don't remember this being posted last month. If you can provide a link to it, I would gladly look it over. Otherwise, get over yourself, and stop your bellyaching.

It's funny to me that Hillary supporters never address issues, they only counterattack. If someone finds an article that, with no malice intended, he posts bringing light to the subject (which incidentally is what free speech and expression, as well as living in a free and Democratic society, is all about) - her supporters do not address the issue in a reasonable and/or respectful way. Instead they attack the person (repeatedly, as apparently you did 20 times in this thread) with personal slanders and/or accuse him/her of doing the Republican dirty work, etc.

Hillary is not half as popular as you think she is. Maybe i'm sick of counterattack as a political strategy. I don't know if this will be a scandal or not, which is why I post the title of the thread with a question mark. The article was published a month ago, but I found it on this New York City web site (where it was first published) the day I posted it here. So once again, get off your high horse. You are not the moderator here, and I can print whatever I want. So go to a Nuremberg rally if you want, I'm going to continue to print what I want.

All Hail her holiness, Hillary Rodham Clinton. 2008 Presidential loser.

[DainBramaged]

88. Aren't you from Canada? And did you read just who Lipscomb is?

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

26. This is one of the many unsavory things IMHO about the Clintons

There's this propensity for ad hominem personal attacks whenever someone makes a (possibly legitimate) complaint. I'm still not sure about the truth or lack thereof of Bill's many liaisons, and frankly I don't much care, they had little bearing on his job and performance as a chief executive. But I can't defend many of his tactics.

[DainBramaged]

28. Why does attacking Bill help us in November?

Ad hominem my wrinkled old ass. We're here to STOP the Reich-wing, not eat our own.

See what my sig line says.

If you don't want to fight for the future and you can't figure out how to beat these people then find something else to do. Bill Clinton

He's right, find ways to beat the Right or find something else to do.

[OzarkDem]

89. There's nothing legitimate to see

Its the same old innuendo and slanted reporting, substituting fact with false, twisted speculation.

Why would you think any of this is legitimate?

[mtnsnake]

29. The SBVT would surely appreciate you sending them a copy of this article

just in case they haven't heard about it yet.

[tularetom]

31. She has NOT announced her candidacy

for the 08 Presidential election. When and if she does I will decide whether or not I will support her. If she is nominated by the Democratic party I will support her wholeheartedly, including financially. Right now she is an announced candidate for re-election to the Senate. I support her effort in that race.

[DainBramaged]

32. HEAR HEAR

[1932]

33. It's unlikely that EVERYTHING he did was against the law.

If it was, then he probably would have been indicted a long time ago.

[Warpy]

40. Using a private detective to undermine paid accusers

is not necessarily the stuff of scandal. Think about what the Arkansas Project actually was, how it was run, who was funding it and why.

They're going to have hard work ahead of them to turn this one into any sort of a scandal. In fact, this is the sort of thing that may backfire spectacularly.

I dislike Clinton's conservatism and sincerely hope she stays in the Senate. However, I can't see this particular "scandal" going anywhere.

[OzarkDem]

43. In fact, it was a good idea

I would have done the same, had I been in their situation.

[karynnj]

51. Why is a Democratic board printing innuendo and rumours

about any Democrat.

[DainBramaged]

54. Because some people here aren't Democrats, period

and don't want regime change in 06 or 08, and think it's perfectly ok to screw with us.

[killerbush]

59. Better we deal with it now

Rather than the Republicans doing it later

[DainBramaged]

62. Deal with what? Threads simply to torment us?

We don't have to deal with shit. we're chatting on a political board, fuck dealing with anything, we only respond, and my response is if you don't support Democrats and Progressives of ALL stripes, get out and join Free Republic.

[Name removed]

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[cassiepriam]

67. Oh no, we are not going to talk about Bill's sex life again......

of course people will want to hear about that instead of the war,
deficit, nukes, etc.

[DainBramaged]

78. There are some in this thread

Who have spent much time in the past bashing Hillary and proudly trumpeting she will never be President, while also skewering Former President Clinton for not being the "role model" he should have been in their eyes.

I question their validity in this argument.

[cassiepriam]

79. Yep, a lot of Dems fell for the Repug character assassination of

the Clintons.

The repugs are clever, they get everyone fighting with each other,
and they laugh all the way to the bank.

[sandnsea]

68. Democrats fighting slander, the horror!!

The irony in this thread is just hysterical. People are upset because a Democrat FOUGHT BACK?!?!?

:rofl:

Just goes to show, some people will allow their minds to be twisted into anything if they think it'll benefit their personal agenda.

And I don't even like Hillary, but if they were hiring private detectives to fight the right wing juggernaut, good for them.

[saltpoint]

69. I hope there is no scandal. Sen. Clinton should be considered in

the primaries without impediment along with all our candidates.

I'd like a clean, long slate of great candidates.

Now, on the Republican side... bring 'em on. Let's get a few more indictments out of Mr. Fitzgerald, huh?

[AuntPatsy]

73. So what? Whoever does get the Dem nomination, there will always

be a scandal brewing from that bunch...

Fight fire with fire.

[Adelante]

77. Hiring private detectives

I am sure that's never been done in politics :eyes:

[sendero]

80. I'm no Hillary fan..

... but so what? If someone is making accusations, I'd like to know if they are a dirtbag.

There is no there here.

[DainBramaged]

82. Thomas Lipscomb

If the incidents it details are true, Kerry was a coward who fled in battle having unintentionally thrown his current supporter, Jim Rassmann, overboard in his panic. Kerry tried to get his first Purple Heart on the basis of a tiny self-inflicted wound from his own grenade. His supporter, Max Cleland, accidentally blew both his legs off and one hand off with one of his own grenades, but never asked for a Purple Heart because, just as in John Kerry's case, there was no enemy action at the time. Kerry went behind the back of the commander who refused his medal request and the doctor who had treated him, and got one anyway.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6969


What could that more than 100 pages contain? Questions have been raised about President Bush's drill attendance in the reserves, but Bush received his honorable discharge on schedule. Kerry, who should have been discharged from the Navy about the same time -- July 1, 1972 -- wasn't given the discharge he has on his campaign Web site until July 13, 1978. What delayed the discharge for six years? This raises serious questions about Kerry's performance while in the reserves that are far more potentially damaging than those raised against Bush.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lips27.html

Mr. Lipscomb is a regular contributor to the American Spectator, Powerline, and Front Page mag, was a vocal enemy of John Kerry, and is an enemy of the Left.

Whatever he writes is nothing more than bile and poison, and those who think his body of works has meaning must think Campbell's Soups are gourmet dining.

[AtomicKitten]

83. The RW has shot their wad on the Clintons.

They went after her campaign manager, and he was acquitted.

If anybody thinks for a minute she would do anything, and I mean anything, that could possibly be construed as fodder for the nutjobs, they aren't thinking straight. The RW requires zero provocation and zero actual fact to start yet another whisper campaign against HRC, yet the crap always seems to wind up here at DU.

Now I wonder why that is?

Rhetorical question.

[DainBramaged]

87. Especially from folks who don't even reside here.

A Hillary hater is a Democracy hater, by default, since their mantra is always anybody but Hillary, which opens the door for the Reich-Wing. And the entire reason they hate her without her even declaring is fear of the woman, not her deeds. They are so afraid of giving her the chance to prove herself they will say or do anything to prevent her from gaining any traction or title.


Just like the Freepers who think a woman's place should be either in the kitchen or on her back. Such virulent scum. And if you reside in another country, and think you have the right to get invloved in the politics here, then your reasons are even more suspect.

The crap winds up here because the scum is afraid, so afraid of her and us. They pretend to be like us, but their words gve them away everytime.

[SaveElmer]

92. Right on the button...

And no one knows better how to deal with this shit than the Clintons.

[noonwitch]

93. The voters could care less about decade old sex scandals

They didn't care in 1998, they care less now. Except for the Hillary haters in both parties.

[itcfish]

96. This is Not Dirt

Who cares? Why are we feeding the faux news junkies with this nonsense?

[LeFleur1]

97. Either /Or

Either some Democrats have fallen to the level of the scum sucking Republicans
OR
The poster who believes this kind of scum sucking is par for campaigns is a scum sucking Republican posting on DU.

[thatsrightimirish]

98. Who cares

We all know shes gunna get reelected in 2006 and nobody wants her in it in 2008 anyway. He's doing us a favor.