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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:42 AM
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What kind of plane looks like a star that moves in the night?
I was looking out in the sky and found this "star" that is moving very slowly, not a shooting star, but a slow moving plane that appears like a star.

It's interesting. I've never seen a moving plane like that before.

Is it a drone?
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:45 AM
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1. sounds like a satellite
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:58 AM
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4. 2nd vote for a satillite
99% percent of the time it is... the other 1%... ALIENS :)
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:15 AM
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13. I forgot about the aliens
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:14 AM
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11. I didn't think satellites moved.
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 01:16 AM by shance
I've never seen anything move like this.

Like a slow moving shooting star.

I guess they do?
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tatertop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:19 AM
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17. they orbit the earth
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:24 AM
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20. I've never seen anything like this and I've been on the earth
for forty plus years now.

Seems to be I would have seen this.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 07:07 AM
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46. Go sleep out under the stars on a clear night some night
Way away from the lights of the city.

Try to stay up as late (or early) as you can. You'll see several of these.

And yes, they're satellites. Sometimes it's the space shuttle.
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:19 AM
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18. Only geosynchronous satellites stationed at 22,300 +/- miles altitude
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 01:29 AM by Steve A Play
'appear' stationary. Most others are in LEO. (Low Earth Orbit) Check out the link I posted below. I think you'll enjoy it. :)

On Edit: Wrong altitude!
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:20 AM
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19. Some do, some don't.
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 01:33 AM by onehandle
The earth is spinning at over 1,000 mph.

Faster than any passenger plane.

(on edit, BrotherBuzz in the next post down is saying what I actually meant. I'm just lazy.)
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:24 AM
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21. They'd crash into earth if they didn't move
Stationary orbiting satellites move around the earth in exactly 24hrs and are really moving fast out in their 23,000 mile high orbit. Interesting, Kepler worked out that distance in the fifteenth century just using observations and mathematics (P squared equals R cubed).
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:36 AM
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27. Yeah but it was Arthur C. Clark that first envisioned using satellites
stationed at that altitude for communications, thus the 'Clark Belt' designation!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:41 AM
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29. Absolutely!
And you better believe Clark understood every word Kepler wrote. :thumbsup:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:16 AM
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47. There are two types of satellites...
Geocentric and orbital. Geocentric basically stay put. Remaining centered over at specific area. While orbital do what the name implies.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:14 AM
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12. 3rd vote for satellite
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:47 AM
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2. Don't say another word
and come with me...

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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 12:57 AM
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3. Planes
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 12:59 AM by Brigid
I live close enough to the Indianapolis airport that I see what you are describing all the time, especially since it's also a major FedEx hub. As far as I know, when you see that, it's just . . . a plane. Do you live fairly close to an airport that takes passenger size planes?
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:30 AM
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25. Yes, but no way they could reach near that altitude that fast.
and there were no other lights.

It was very high.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:00 AM
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satellite
they can appear to be slowly moving nearby craft, when they're actually traveling at ridiculous speeds in orbit
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:05 AM
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7. ...and seem lit because the sun is reflecting off of them.
I've been a satellite watcher all of my life. A few years ago, my wife and I spotted a Space Shuttle connected to Mir. Much brighter than any satellite I've ever seen.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:09 AM
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8. wow
that would have been cool...

one thing i've missed about moving from my rural home to the city for school is the inability to stargaze
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:16 AM
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15. We were on a pitch black beach North of St. Augustine, Florida.
This was in the late nineties. It was so bright and so sudden that the sight literally stunned us for several minutes.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:00 AM
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5. Saw the same thing tonight
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 01:02 AM by Whoa_Nelly
It was moving slowly. So I grabbed the binocs...it had stopped moving...was like that for about 20 seconds, so started thinking maybe I had been wrong and it WAS a star...then it started moving again. Lost sight of it because of trees. Through the binocs couldn't see any of the typical flashing wing lights. Thought it must be a small plane, but there was no sound, and it wasn't that far away. This was around or just before 10 PM here west coast.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:12 AM
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9. West coast here too. Lala land.
Edited on Mon Apr-17-06 01:25 AM by shance
Around the same time.

I agree on the no sound.

Clouds blocked it, then the phone rang, watched it for a few, and then I lost track.



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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:01 AM
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6. maybe one of our fun little war toys? n/t
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:12 AM
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10. Sounds like you saw the International Space Station
You can view what satellites do flyovers of your area in 'realtime' at this site,

http://science.nasa.gov/Realtime/JTrack/3d/JTrack3D.html

You must have JAVA enabled to use this. This applet allows you to zoom in and out, rotate the earth, and click on any given satellite to identify it and see it's ground track. Also try out the J-Pass function on this page to find out what satellites will be visible overhead at any given time. Keep in mind that the best viewing occurs just after sunset and just before sunrise.

Have fun! :)
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:15 AM
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14. So what are these satellites "looking" for?
n/t
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:27 AM
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24. It depends on the satellite
Many are use for satellite telephone communications, some are 'polar orbiting' spy satellites like the KH-11, KH-12, and various other 'spy' satellites. {KH stands for 'Key Hole'.) Many others are merely rocket booster stages locked in orbit. Lots of 'geo' and weather satellites monitoring everything from the ozone layer, x-ray emissions, magnetic flux or measuring ocean temperatures.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:17 AM
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16. vote for sat
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:25 AM
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22. I've seen them before, always assumed they
were satellites after seeing the first satellite ever put in orbit..Sputnik.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:26 AM
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23. Could be.
I've just never seen a moving star like this before.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:30 AM
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26. They are very odd "feeling".
Moving at a constant speed. Not blinking.

What is really cool is seeing them disappear into the earth's shadow.

Eerie.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:07 AM
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34. Way cool! Disappearing into the earth's shadow makes total sense...
but I never observed it. I suspect it works best with west to east satellites in the evening sky ;)

Observing it is now on my 'to do' list. Thanks for the inspiration
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Steve A Play Donating Member (638 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:19 AM
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36. Use the link I posted in post #10
You will not only know where and when to look for them but what satellite you're looking at!

Lots of fun. The J-Pass link even shows you where the satellite will pass the terminator from sunlight into darkness. (The green line shows where it's in sunlight, the violet where it's in darkness.)

I'm in the Santa Cruz mountains and can view quite a few on any given night. Sometimes we can see 2 or 3 moving in different directions at the same time.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:52 AM
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40. My model shows red and violet lines, no green
do I have the right Java, or do I need another cup of joe? ;)

Cool site. :thumbsup:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:37 AM
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28. I got that beat
When I was a kid I watched a bright star move from one point to another. First it was stopped.. Then it was moving at a constant velocity across the sky, about 10 moon widths in 3 seconds.. Then it stopped again! Any guesses? My dad suggested that it might be a satellite correcting it's orbit. Could be, but it was really bright, Venus bright.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:54 AM
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32. We saw something similar in the UK 6 yrs ago
Nowhere near as bright as Venus and no sound, suggesting great altitude. It moved in zigzags at precise angles, and at such speed that a pilot would never survive the Gs. We watched it for over a minute, dumbfounded, and then it simply disappeared.

We also saw many satellites, and the shuttle on occasion. Totally different movement -- straight trajectory. Shuttles move fast across the sky compared to satellites, perhaps an illusion because they're in lower orbit?

Anyway, we still wonder what we saw that one night.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:50 AM
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30. I made the same observation this evening...
...and it seemed to be getting closer and closer. I took a break to watch Dukes of Hazzard and when I returned to my back yard, apple tree observation post, it was much much closer. I was able to get this picture---I don't think it's a satellite.



Don't worry, they're friendly---no rectal probing or anything like that.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 01:54 AM
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31. Now that's an amazing shot. Was Richard Dreyfuss around
by any chance?

Or Steven Spielberg?

You may want to steer clear of mashed potatoes.

;)
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:07 AM
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33. Haven't seen any sign of Dreyfuss or...
Spielberg, but this guy keeps offering to mow my yard for $20.00 cash (no checks).



I think they're illegals.
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:14 AM
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35. Well, I think it goes back to the mashed potato thing.....
mow the lawn in alien terms.....well, its kind of a whole different deal.
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Mr_Jefferson_24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:19 AM
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37. I think you may be right...


MMMM GOOD!!!
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:28 AM
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39. Mmmm.....those make close encounters truly worth my while.........
Thanks for posting***

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 03:39 AM
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43. That's it- No More Owsley Acid for you before bedtime, young man!
I mean it.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 02:22 AM
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38. Here's a cool website for spotting satellites
On clear dark nights I can spot quite a few after twilight. This website lets you enter your location and tells where and when to look:

http://www.heavens-above.com
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 03:03 AM
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41. I also recommend "Heavens Above"
It will also show the secret "black triangle" satellites if you know the secret code.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 03:25 AM
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42. Could be the International Space Station.
Supposedly, it's very bright. Always wanted to catch it.

here's a cool site:

http://science.nasa.gov/Realtime/jtrack/3d/JTrack3D.html
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 06:26 AM
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44. You may be having an eye problem. If you see such a plane
again,try looking through binoculars. The "star" might turn into a regular light.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 06:41 AM
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45. it could have been the ISS, it's meant to be one of the brightest
satellites. Unfortunately I haven't managed to get out into the wilds for years and go stargazing.
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Thirtieschild Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-17-06 09:50 AM
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48. I've wondered about the light we saw
Moving like a plane, but no red lights. Must have been a satelite (sigh). I hoped it was a UFO - after all, we're in New Mexico now. We're not near an airport or city and it's wonderful to see the stars again.
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