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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:22 AM Original message |
WP political blog: 2008: The Case For John Kerry |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. If the media would have been as honest as this in 2004, he |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I agree, if honesty is "damning with faint praise". |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
2. So his strong point is the money he has raised. Sounds about right. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Sure - if this writer speaks for you. Robert Parry comes closest to |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I agree, but it's funny how being able to |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
70. Richard Blum, Feinstein hubby and warmonger, gives him money |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Well, by their estimation anyway |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
3. I think fundraising is important but definitely NOT the most important |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
7. After Dubya's "I'm the decider" claim this morning, it shouldn't be |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
8. Kerry turned off way too many fence-sitters |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I disagree with this completely |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Clinton said he doubted he could win in a post 9-11 election. |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Please cite examples to defend this statement of yours |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. All over DU - and it's the same argument many Dems made against Gore after |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. The Democrats put out excellent candidates for President. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Throughout the US history the Democrats have had less luck winning |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I don't find anything comforting about it at all. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
46. Most people STILL DON'T KNOW much about Kerry. Many Dems are clueless |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. I know. But that's not going to help win an election. n/t |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Dems exposing the GOP control of media is the only step to change that. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Funny, the GOP doesn't operate by that same system. |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 03:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. this is a very key point, blm |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Your rule of "New Blood" has been the bane of Democrats. Tragic |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
31. By that logic, Howard Dean would have clinched the 2004 nomination |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. There were no reasons to think it would be a cat walk |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. ??? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. From never liked Kerry - and From only disliked Dean when Dean changed his |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Exactly! |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Nope. |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. The DLC never liked Kerry as a candidate |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. The fence sitters were persuaded to vote for Bush out of fear - |
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worldgonekrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 04:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
63. "should have been a cakewalk"??? |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 04:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. I stand by my "cakewalk" statement, and here's why: |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 04:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. 4. If you can cheat alittle, you can cheat alot |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 07:07 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. You missed his Iraq speech in Sept. 2004, then. He attacked Bush BIGTIME |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. Hillary has $20 million...more than Kerry, I believe. n/t |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. No she doesn't. She has money in accounts that can't carry over |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. It belongs to him? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Those that didn't sign up in support of Kerry have had ample |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Is she using to support other Dems? |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
17. i vote no to the candidate of the fat cats, aka |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. He's not getting the money from fat cats but from lots of |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Naturally, he has a large donor base. |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Of course he does |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I'm just saying that he is in the same position as Edwards |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. I can assure you he has been very actively supporting other |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:02 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Excellent. n/t |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
60. on MTP he said |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #22 |
51. On that word you're using, TayTay -- "generous." I sense that |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. And that desire to get rid of these people. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Concur with every syllable. More strong, clear thinking from you, TayTay. |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 09:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
78. Thanks. My entire State Congressional delegation is Dem |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 10:21 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Thumbs up to your call for all-hands-on-deck for 06. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. HIS LIST from his site with supporters who signed up to support him- |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Who submitted the Clean Money, Clean Elections bill and never accepted |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. "Clean Money, Clean Elections" |
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Chomp (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
30. So, reason #1 for Kerry running |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Wrong. Kerry is able to raise money for Dem campaigns cause he is trusted |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. No, #1 is because he has the expertise, judgment and smarts to lead |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Then why did he run such an embarassingly inept campaign? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Kerry won his matchups with Bush - left media got their ASSES handed to |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. It's disgusting that Cilizza doesn't even mention that Kerry is trusted |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
39. Of those Cillizza lists with money to run, Kerry by far, the best choice. |
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worldgonekrazy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 04:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
64. Yeah, none of those really appeal to me |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
44. "plaudits from many on the party's left" |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 04:42 PM Response to Reply #44 |
66. Howdy hun. Did you hear the latest? |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 05:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. thanks for the info, LC ... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. Kerry, Gore, H. Clinton, Kucinich, Dean, Clark, Edwards, etc. |
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Notoverit (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
56. Does anyone here care that kerry actually won? Then gave it up and allowed |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 03:50 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I believe the ONLY candidate to support is one who BELIEVES machine fraud |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. proof was/is lacking |
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Notoverit (302 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. In the meanwhile, all think we lost, W won - and how to change ourselves |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 07:13 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Name YOUR choice for Dem candidate who BELIEVES in machine fraud. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 04:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Did you know of a whistleblower he could have used? |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
62. Watch out for the CASE-AGAINST. Cellizza Post not really friendly to JK |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
71. I think the "case" for him is coming from people who want GOP wins in 2008 |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Explain the 11 million more votes than in 2000. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
76. One odd thing about the article. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
77. Petition |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
79. I think I'd like to see Kerry run again, although it's still too early |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Even Kerry can see it's too early |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-18-06 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
82. Great post. Senator Kerry deserves another chance. n/t |
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Sensitivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-19-06 08:03 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Kerry was the only candidate who could have faced a Sitting War-time Pres |
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