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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:37 AM
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Spread the word about Guiliani...
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 02:01 PM by newyawker99
From: New York Daily News
4/12/06
by David Saltonstall
Daily News Senior Correspondent

GIVING RUDY A HARD 'TIME'
Film depicts an iron-fisted mayor

<snip>

Rudy Giuliani better hope that a new documentary on his mayoralty, 'Giuliani Time,' never makes it to cineplexes in Iowa, New Hampshire and other presidential battlegrounds.

The two-hour film, which debuts May 12, casts Giuliani not as the hero of 9/11 - the role that won him acclaim as America's Mayor - but rather as the iron-fisted ruler of a city where children went hungry, the poor were forgotten and many city cops were racists.

In short, 'Giuliani Time' seeks to do for Giuliani what Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" did for President Bush - namely, shine an unsparing light on the darker corners of his life and career, just as he starts to run for President.

...Kevin Keating, 61, a veteran cameraman who is making his directorial debut with "Giuliani Time" "...I don't think he is going to be remembered as a great mayor."

<snip>

For New Yorkers who lived through the Giuliani era, the film offers few revelations: It winds from his Catholic school upbringing to his days as a mob-busting prosecutor and ultimately to his two terms as mayor, with particular focus on the racially charged police shooting of African immigrant Amadou Diallo.

Perhaps the most startling comments come from former schools Chancellor Rudy Crew...who emerges as one of his toughest critics.


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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 09:52 AM
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1. I don't think Democratic Catholics should even think of doing this:
"Democratic Catholics everywhere should be asking the Church why it has allowed Giuliani to be married THREE TIMES without excommunication...the first marriage to his OWN COUSIN."

The idea of using a person's church to hit him politically is sickening. Excommunication is very very rare. I agree that Guilliani had major problems and I would never defend his tenure as NYC mayor, but this really is petty. That Republicans tried to influence Catholic bishops and priests to deny Kerry communion. It really sickened me that his staff had to call churches to insure that they had no problem with him privately attending mass on Sundays. It is no better if we do these things to them.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:12 AM
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2. I am not Catholic so forgive me for hurting your feelings about the Church
but I do remember how the entire Catholic Church officials seemed to buy the Republican pov regarding Kerry and taking Communion. But it appears that according to your pov we should just turn the other cheek.

I thought it was against the rules of the Catholic Church to be divorced although I realize that some rich and famous
Catholics always seem to find a way to circumvent this edict.

It seems to me that if the Church is going to be so adamant about nixing abortion and gay rights that they should be just as adamant about following their own rules about marriage and divorce.

"It is no better if we do these things to them." This sentence puts you straight into the field of moderate Democrats whose pov caused us to lose the last two elections and if not confronted will continue to lose. We have to fight back and sometimes that means using their own methods against them.

I hope I can find enough REAL DEMOCRATS to swift-boat Giuliani's racist ass. Can you even BEGIN to think about what the Republicans would do if a Democrat had been married to his own cousin?

BTW: it was reported in the press that Giulian's father was a low-level Mafia man. What a great background for President of the U.S. Oh, but that's right, Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger...(I'll say it first before someone else feels the need to defend Giuliani).

When I read some of these responses, it is easy to see how come we have been defeated so immensely these past five years. If someone tried to injure a member of your family I bet you would fight back with every possible means, fair or unfair...so what's the difference here?

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 01:06 PM
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5. The "entire Catholic Church officials" were NOT united against Kerry.
You can do some research if you wish to speak with authority.
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Chimichurri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 10:12 AM
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3. Sadly Rudy's tendencies towards being "emotionally barren on the issu
of race" and his inability "to put himself in shoes of the city's vast immigrant population" will only help him in the redstates.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-19-06 12:45 PM
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4. Giuliani's accomplishment? He was present during 9/11.
Edited on Wed Apr-19-06 12:47 PM by AtomicKitten
He walked about NY barking orders, but unfortunately he didn't see to it that the Fire Department and Police Department had proper communications, resulting in hundred of deaths.

Tweety is all atwitter at the prospect of Giuliani running for president. Falwell denounced him and so Rudy stumped for Santorum to win support of the fanatical faux christians. Ick. But most NY'ers remember when he was a big joke running around with his mistress.
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