On KO - Russert - Civil War in Pentagon - Many back Murtha - Wow

[RamboLiberal]

I missed KO last night - fell asleep - but my jaw dropped when reading the transcript.

And in our fourth story on the COUNTDOWN, the most telling explanation about why has now surfaced, that the president believes that firing Donald Rumsfeld is the equivalent of firing himself, that according to someone close to the chief executive who spoke to NBC's Tim Russert, who also got another big tip, that when Congressman Jack Murtha began calling for a timetable on Iraq last November, some of those in agreement were inside the Pentagon.

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TIM RUSSERT, HOST, “MEET THE PRESS” (on phone): I knew something was happening when I had John Murtha on several months ago, when he talked about his plan for a timetable. And I got several calls from people at the Pentagon and others. And they said, you know, Murtha's right. And I was stunned, because you don't usually get those kinds of calls. They were obviously people who would not allow me to broadcast their names.

So the last couple of weeks, as I talked to people, one former general said, We have the equivalent of a civil war going on at the Pentagon. The generals are trying to reclaim control of the war, because they do believe that serious mistakes were made. And that's a very serious statement.

And then, someone very close to the president said to me, you know, He won't fire Rumsfeld, because it would be the equivalent of firing himself. He can't acknowledge that it was such a big mistake in so many ways. And so Rumsfeld will stay.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12405275/

Russert call was on Imus - Video link: http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/04/20.html#a7980

[xchrom]

1. the mistake has been made. period.

the only decent thing we can do now for the murder and mayhem we've caused is come home.

[MissMarple]

3. We are leaderless...even the generals are in disarray.

George and his neocon buddies couldn't lead us out of a coat closet let alone Iraq.

[xchrom]

4. nail on head, missmarple.

[Jack Rabbit]

5. I was reading about Mussolini the other day

After Mussolini was deposed (July 1943), it took the new government of General Badoglio only six weeks to negotiate and sign an armistice with the Allies. Of course, Badoglio during that time was claiming that Italy would continue to fight as part of the Axis. Once the armistice was signed, Badoglio and King Victor Emmanuel, knowing how the Nazis would demonstrate their displeasure with Italians in general and with them in particular, left town. The commanders in the field had no orders and many troops simply deserted. This left Italy defenseless in the face of a vengeful German army.

Now that's what you call an army in disarray.

[MissMarple]

2. Thanks for the link...

I've been out of touch for a few days. I'm way behind on the current events thing. I am assuming there hasn't been another terrorist attack against us, hurricane season hasn't had an early start with a hit on the Mississippi coast, or that George has resigned. Those I would have heard about :)