George Allen - the guy repugs want to run for President

[The Straight Story]

http://www.georgeallen.com

Anyone know more about this guy?

[JI7]

1. moron

idiot, dufus, dumbass,

[Syrinx]

2. his Dad was a great football coach

About the only positive thing I have to say about him.

[Jack Rabbit]

13. My thoughts exactly

Coach George Allen, Washington Redskins, from SportsEncyclopedia.

[LibDemAlways]

3. I went to high school with him and posted a

thread about him not long ago. He's a real piece of work.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=794876

[Coastie for Truth]

4. From what I've read and seen

Jebbie or Dr. Bill Frist would be better.

:puke:

[Appalachian_American]

5. As dusgusting as George Allen is, I'd rather have him than

another bush, even Jebbie.

[SquireJons]

6. Yeah, I live in Va and know far more than I want to

The truly sad thing is that I voted for the a$$hole because I couldn't stand Mary Sue Terry, his democratic opponent. He talked a reasonable game during the election – big tent and all of that. Then, after he was in office, he literally became the worst Va governor in my lifetime. The state was completely dysfunctional. Here are a few examples:

Right after the election, he filled every conceivable office with political hacks and fund raisers, despite the fact that none of them had the slightest qualifications. His choice to head the Dept of Parks and Recreation was a big fund raiser for his campaign. He got a real hard on for carrying a side arm, because he was technically a 'law enforcement official.' So he's leading a bunch of businessmen on a tour of Back Bay Wildlife Refuge in an SUV, even though vehicular traffic is banned in the park. He see's a wild pig, and pulls out his side arm and shoots it. He then radioed to the Ranger station to have them come out and get the dead animal so he could serve it up at a pork BBQ he was planning for that weekend. This really happened.

He put a woman in charge of the State Education Board who had no experience with education at all. She too was a big fund raiser for Allen, and had close connections to the religious fundamentalists. She then went on a crusade to try to add school prayer and creationism to the states curriculum.

He pushed for and got legislation that not only allowed anyone who wanted to legal authority to carry a visible side arm, but also allowed that individual to wear the gun into establishments that serve alcohol. He personally made sure that Va would not have background checks or waiting periods for guns. He’s a total gun freak.

His administration was so bad that they couldn't even get along with fellow republicans. When he left office (because in Va, a gov can only serve one term), his officials deleted the contents of all the hard drives in their control, and removed all record so the incoming republican administration had to start from scratch. How he got elected as a senator boggles the imagination. When talking with reporters, he injects liberal doses of football terminology to describe his positions. While his father was a football coach for the Redskins and Rams, he himself has no pro or college football background at all. He is a complete boob. Very much like a younger version of Reagan, and would make an ideal figure head president - incapable of even understanding the issues, but very congenial.

All plaid flannel shirts and cowboy boots, all the time. This from a guy raised in Washington D.C. Don’t underestimate him, he’s very dangerous for an idiot.

[LibDemAlways]

7. He wasn't raised in DC. He was born

in Whittier, CA and lived mostly in the Los Angeles area until he went East with his family in the 1970s when he was already a college student. The last community he lived in in California, when his dad was coach of the LA Rams, was Palos Verdes Estates, a wealthy suburb. He's the most bogus "cowboy" imaginable. He did fancy himself a redneck though, even way back when. In high school he decorated his car with Confederate flag stickers and is best remembered for spraypainting racist graffiti on the school walls. As an adult he kept a noose in his law office and a big Confederate flag on his living room wall.

I totally agree with you that it is almost inconceivable that he was elected to any position. Had it not been for his famous father, he would be eeking out a living selling lemons to unsuspecting used car buyers.

[abluelady]

8. Hopefully Your Message Tells Us Something

We need to stop voting "against" someone. If you don't like either candidate, don't vote. When you vote for someone bad like Allen, we all suffer. Maybe if those who didn't like Mary Sue Terry just didn't vote, we wouldn't have had Allen. There is no way Mary Sue would have done a worse job than Allen. We need to all remember that in the future.

[Jai4WKC08]

12. Sitting out an election isn't the answer

In a close race, a refusal to vote for one side is essentially the same as voting for the other.

Now, I realize that sometimes the Democrat may seem so bad, may in fact be so bad, that it's just impossible to vote for them. In that case, sitting home or voting third party may be the only course of action that can be lived with. I honestly do understand that. We each must listen to our own conscience.

But I implore anyone who finds his/herself in that situation, PLEASE consider the bigger picture of how another Repug in office helps award them the majority, control of committees, ability to set the legislative agenda.

Remember, voting for a Dem you hate is IN FACT the same as voting for a Dem in a different district or state, one you may LOVE, to run the Judiciary Committee, the Ethics Committee, the Armed Services Committee, and on and on and on. Consider that before you search your heart to decide whether you can pull the lever next to the name of the Dem you despise.

[abluelady]

15. You Said That So Much Better Than I

The point is if you want the Democrats in control, you have to vote for them. We are at a point that we can no longer vote for the "better" person. We need to get as many Democrats in as possible and then replace them with other Democrats as time goes by. But voting for a Republican in these time:puke: We must not do it.

[SquireJons]

16. Actually, i got fooled by Allen

I was working an event at which he spoke, and he sounded so reasonable that I thought he was worth a chance. If I don't like the democratic candidate, and the pugs nominate a moderate, I used to think it was a good idea to try to moderate the republican party. I've learned my lesson (that was a long time ago). Even the moderate pugs are lying assholes. Can't trust any of them.

[Virginian]

10. Why didn't you like Mary Sue?

I knew her (after the election) at church and she seemed a nice enough person.

I thought the whispering campaign against her was unprofessional and prankish. If Allen wanted to call her names, he should have said them to her face -- oh, yeah, Republicans don't do things above board, do they?

I thought it was not the right time for either party to run a woman. Wilder had broken through conservative barriers by being the first African American governor since reconstruction. The voters wanted to elect a white male next. A female governor following an African American governor was more liberal than the red parts of the state could handle. Mary Sue had reached her peak four or eight years too early.

Unfortunately, a Virginia Governor can not be reelected to a consecutive term but he can be elected again as was Mills Godwin. We still have to worry about this idiot, Allen, running for governor again after he loses his senate seat. Hopefully, his run for the presidency will expose him for what he is and he will never again be electable.

[abluelady]

14. I Had Met Mary Sue

over the years and know lots of people who knew her well. Personally, I think she would have been a terrific representative for us. I'm sorry she is no longer in politics.

[SquireJons]

17. My dislike for Terry came from insider knowledge

My girlfriend at the time was an enforcement lawyer for the State Water Control Board, and she had regular dealings with the AG's office (Terry was the state A.G.) Quite frankly, she could not have been any worse than even the worst republican. She forced the reopening of a plant that was literally killing a small Appalachian town (the heat shield manufacturers for the space shuttle), she took credit for a number of environmental initiatives that she tried with all her might to derail, she loved industrial waste dump sites, and refused to enforce the law with regards to pollution or even business licenses. She just sucked evey way possible. If I had to do it all over again, I simply wouldn't have voted for governor at all. It had absolutely nothing to do with her sexual preference, which was the whispering campaign against her.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

9. I pray he is the Republican candidate

He is slightly more articulate than W, but not by much. He is dumb as paint and cannot think very quickly on his feet. He will remind many people of the failed "good ole boy" bs that was so much a part of Bush winning. Please oh please of please let George Allen be the candidate!

[Awsi Dooger]

11. He would be a strategic choice for VP

To boost the vital state of Virginia by maybe 3 to 3.5 points. That's what a VP choice is typically worth in a state with a single digit partisanship index.

If we nominate Warner, it's even more sensible for Allen to be low on the GOP ticket. In a 50/50 national race, Warner would figure to win Virginia by perhaps 2-5 points minus anyone from Virginia on the Republican side. It could edge toward coin flip status with Allen at VP.

Extremely early handicapping, I concede, but 2008 is easier than most in that regard because races after one party has had control for exactly two terms are almost always photo finishes in the popular vote, the only recent exception being 1988.

[skipos]

19. Warner's numbers in VA are much better than Allen's

From everything I saw, Warner's approval ratings were around usually 70, while Allen's are around 50. I think if they are each on the ticket, Warner would take VA.

[beachmom]

22. Everyone loves M. Warner in Virginia -- wasn't he near 80% approval

at the end? In contrast, I hear no talk about Allen. The go to senator is John Warner. Allen is irrelevant. All the presidential talk is truly on a national basis. As a constituent, if I had a big problem I would call Sen. Warner's office, and would not even bother with Allen. Case in point: I was calling my senators and congresswoman (all Republicans) about PBS funding. My Congresswoman's and Sen. Warner's staff were very nice. They listened to me, and got my message. Allen's staffer OTOH . . . VERY rude, like I was wasting his time.

Ideology aside, I think that says a lot when the people who work for Allen are a**holes.

Oh, and if someone downthread didn't already say it, Allen is "bored" with his Senate job. Well, then quit, you idiot!

[Awsi Dooger]

25. It's still a red state

So any influence in that direction is potentially significant. Northern Virginia is moving Democratic, but slowly, to the point the state will still be probably 3-4 points GOP leaning in 2008. That's in a 50/50 atmosphere and with no favorite sons on the ballot. If you add Warner atop our ticket he can easily overcome that 3-4 point slant via the popularity and favorite son aspect. But with Allen on the other side, either the unlikely spot atop the ticket or as VP, that cuts into Warner's advantage. Some of the middle road to red leaning voters who would otherwise vote for Warner will default GOP due to Allen's presence, whether they are thrilled with him or not. Yes, it's theory since I can't think of a similar recent circumstance with dueling politicians from the same state on each ticket, but this is hardly complicated. A VP will have pull in his home state, even someone as pathetic as Allen.

[CANDO]

18. My right wing brother says Allen is their man.

Gush Limpjaw has all his ditto-morons backing George Allen. They can't stand McCain. Giuliani is tainted because of where he's from. Allen is their religio-political hope for the future.

[Catchawave]

20. The Va Dem Primary/winner plans

to "bloody him up". Here ya go:

http://www.webbforsenate.com/

http://www.miller2006.org/

...more dish in the Virginia Forum :hi:

[Douglas Carpenter]

21. Here is a look at Sen. George Allen's voting record based on interest

group ratings.

I contrasted it with Sen. McCain, Sen. Lieberman and Sen. Clinton.

First is Peace Majority – a compilation of scores from a number of different peace groups – see website:

http://www.peacemajority.org/scorecard /

Sen. George Allen: Final Score: 4.0/98.0 votes= 4%

Sen. John McCain: Final Score: 4.0/95.0 votes= 4%

Sen. Hillary Clinton: Final Score: 59.0/98.0 votes=60%

Sen. Joseph Lieberman: Final Score: 15.0/62.0 votes=24%
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This is courtesy of project vote smart - link:

http://www.vote-smart.org/index.htm
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2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation 33 percent in 2004.

“Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation 67 percent in 2004.
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2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the Peace Action 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Peace Action 13 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Peace Action 38 percent in 2004

Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Peace Action 75 percent in 2004.
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2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 0 percent in 2004

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 100 percent in 2004

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Abortion Reproductive Rights Action League 100 percent in 2004.
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2003-2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 0 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 22 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 83 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Civil Liberties Union 78 percent in 2003-2004
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2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 15 percent in 2004..

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 35 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 75 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Americans for Democratic Action 95 percent in 2004.
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2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 17 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 33 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 83 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 100 percent in 2004.
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2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 9 percent in 2004

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 9 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 92 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 110 percent in 2004
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2003-2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the National Education Association 25 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the National Education Association 35 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the National Education Association 88 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the National Education Association 85 percent in 2003-2004.
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2003-2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 13 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 25 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 88 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Human Rights Campaign 88 percent in 2003-2004.
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2003-2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 7 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 14 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 95 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights 100 percent in 2003-2004
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2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 50 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Arab American Institute 25 percent in 2004.
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2003-2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 0 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 56 percent in 2003-2004

2003-2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 56 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the League of Conservation Voters 92 percent in 2003-2004.
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2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 83 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 0 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Christian Coalition 0 percent in 2004.
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2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 92 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator McCain supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 72 percent in 2004.”

2004 Senator Lieberman supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 0 percent in 2004..

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Conservative Union 0 percent in 2004
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[skipos]

23. Dang, Allen is a real turd alright.

I imagine there are only a few senators worse than him.

[Douglas Carpenter]

24. no not many Senators worse then Allen...A couple in Oklahoma and

Kentucky that are just plain batshit CRAZY..but that's about it.



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