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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:27 PM
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Clark and Cleland at Little Rock veterans memorial today
According to an AP report:

LITTLE ROCK -- Former U.S. Sen. Max Cleland of Georgia, who lost both legs and an arm in the Vietnam War, on Saturday blasted the Bush administration's handling of the war in Iraq as immoral.

Cleland and retired Gen. Wesley Clark appeared together at the Arkansas Vietnam Veterans Memorial on the grounds of the state Capitol as part of a tribute to residents of the state who served in the military. The event was part of the Arkansas Young Democrats state convention, being held at the Arkansas Education Association state headquarters across the street from the Capitol.


"It is immoral to abuse the good nature of our young people, and send them back and back and back (into combat) ... with no strategy to win, and no strategy to end" the war, Cleland said.

After Cleland's short speech, Clark _ an Arkansas native who sought the Democratic Party's nomination for president in 2004 _ returned to the microphone briefly, turning to cast his eyes on the names of the Arkansans who died in Vietnam.

"I can't help but look at the names on this wall and know, Max, you and I, there but for the grace of God ..." He left the sentence unfinished.


http://www.accessnorthga.com/news/ap_newfullstory.asp?ID=74384

Damn, what great Americans. Make me feel proud to be a Democrat. :patriot:
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:29 PM
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1. Clark and Cleland ..... I like the sound of that.
It strong, upbeat, alliterative. I like it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:34 PM
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2. They are good friends. They were before but really bonded during 2004
general election. I love them both and appreciate their continuing efforts to sound the alarm about BushInc.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:07 PM
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12. you are right
and Clark was there to support Cleland in 2002 elections also. it's good they are continuing to work together. the more, the tougher.

too bad we wont be seeing this in the media.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:51 PM
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9. Beautiful
I like it too!:patriot:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:36 PM
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3. Two of my favorite vets
:patriot:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:38 PM
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4. Two great American heroes.
:patriot:
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:39 PM
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5. Can you imagine how much worse off our country would be
without either (or, heaven help us, both) of these great men?

Courage and integrity personified!

TC
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:26 PM
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6. The unfinished sentence
What these men have been through and they just keep serving. :patriot:
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:36 PM
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8. They both came close....
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 09:37 PM by Donna Zen
There is the story of Clark rappelling down the mountain under fire in Bosnia. When the plane set down carrying the coffin of those that died, Madeline Albright said that watching Gert greet Wes is something she'll never forget.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:35 PM
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7. Clark and Cleland 2008
As a disabled person I love Max He's my personal hero.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:17 PM
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10. Honor. Integrity. Courage.
:patriot:

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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:34 PM
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11. Two real heroes
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 11:47 PM
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13. Patriots that are true......
turning to cast his eyes on the names of the Arkansans who died in Vietnam.

"I can't help but look at the names on this wall and know, Max, you and I, there but for the grace of God ..."
He left the sentence unfinished.



Let us pray that we will win back the house or/and the senate in 2006.....for the grace of God!
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 01:21 AM
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14. I attended!
This is Arkansas' big Democratic weekend. Max Cleland was also the Keynote speaker at the Jefferson-Jackson Dinner tonight. Wes Clark was the emcee. Both were wonderful! Arkansas will be solid blue in '06! We Arkansas Dems are fired up to WIN!
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:41 AM
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15. Will you post a little more?
Knowing what was said would be wonderful. Thx
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 01:42 AM
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22. I will....
I'm working on my write-up of the day. Glad you all like the pics posted below....that's just a few of the ones I took at Saturday's events. Will post my report/link when I'm done....typing my fingers to the bone, I am.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:11 PM
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24. I looked at your album
The photos are stunning.
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:16 PM
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16. Some photos here....
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:29 PM
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17. wow
you can see how this is really getting to them in that pic and with that memorial in the background.

here is another sweet and happier pic of them together.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:34 PM
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18. I love Max Cleland .........
.... and I get really weepy when I think of the shit they did to him in Georgia .... for what? Some schmuck named Saxby Chambliss.

I think of Max with John Kerry, wall to wall in the 04 race.

I think of Max, in his wheelie, at the gate to The Pig Farm in Crawdad, in the hot sun, delivering a letter to King Shitferbrainz.

I just love Max. He served .... and serves some more .... and more ... and more.

The other guy in the picture's not bad, either :)
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:38 PM
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19. Awesome beyond words.
Thanks, Carol. And thanks for the OP, Jai.

Those are two true heroes -- just great men in every way. :patriot:
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Clarkie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:45 PM
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25. Two great heroes. Thanks for posting. nt
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:47 PM
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26. That's a great photo from Sue.
:thumbsup:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 10:50 PM
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20. Prediction: Max and Wes will be working full time jobs in D.C. come 2009.
:patriot: :patriot:
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-23-06 11:14 PM
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21. That would be very nice indeed. n/t
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CarolNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:06 PM
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23. picture
Here's another great picture I swiped from ArkySue's posting at CCN....



"I can't help but look at the names on this wall and know, Max, you and I, there but for the grace of God ..."

Indeed...

And my own private moment of silence to all those who weren't as lucky as Wes and Max to make it out of that war...or any of the others fought, including this current fiasco...alive. ;(
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-25-06 09:53 PM
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27. George W. Bush could not walk onto a stage with either of these two
men. General Clark and Senator Cleland combined must have been a formidable event for the audience, and I bet they remember this event in the coming midterms.

Love 'em both.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:27 AM
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28. I love that last line, "Makes me feel proud to be a Democrat."
Exactly.
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