Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Democratic Strategy for Victory : American Prospect

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:10 PM
Original message
Democratic Strategy for Victory : American Prospect
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 02:13 PM by McCamy Taylor
Infrastructure posted what seemed like the obvious Democratic Strategy for victory. Stop wasting all our time responding to the GOP about GOP issues--topics which excite only the Republican base. Start emphasizing the issues that get the Democratic base interested, the topics that Dems are strong on, the ones that make our politicians shine. Everyone knows the issues that define Democrats. In terms of their current priority in the public mind they are:

1. HEALTH CARE, HEALTH CARE. HEALTH CARE. The last people to try to do anything were Bill and Hillary. The Republicans shut them down. The GOP Congress has done nada. Promise them that a Dem Congress will get right to work.

2. JOBS: we are bleeding our good jobs to other countries and creating crap jobs at home. Dems know jobs.

3. DEFICIT: Dems are the new party when it comes to fiscal conservatism thanks to Bill Clinton. We will stop unbridled federal spending on Halliburton and pet pork and the war.

Speaking of war (and defense): When asked the trick question "What would Dems do differently about Iraq?" Give the trick answer: "First, we must acknowledge that our leaders LIED and TRICKED America into going into war. Only then will America trust us enough to get behind the war effort. Once Americans can trust their leaders again, then we must change our strategy in Iraq. We must stop letting the politicians fight the war. Instead, we must follow the advice of the generals on the ground who know how to fight a war."


This is all the Dems have to do to make themselves into a neatly packaged, easily recognizable alternative political party. Don't believe me?

How about this article from the American Prospect "The Politics of Definition", which was linked on Buzzflash today:

http://www.prospect.org/web/printfriendly-view.ww?id=11435

"The thesis of this report is straightforward. Progressives need to fight for what they believe in -- and put the common good at the center of a new progressive vision -- as an essential strategy for political growth and majority building. This is no longer a wishful sentiment by out-of-power activists, but a political and electoral imperative for all concerned progressives.

"After three consecutive losses at the presidential and congressional levels, progressives have been consumed with finding the strategies, tactics, messages, policies, media outlets, language and messengers to overcome their problems at the ballot box. Thinkers across the ideological spectrum battle it out over the wisdom of pursuing a hard populist approach versus a renewed focus on national security and cultural deficits with middle class voters. Philanthropists and elites focus their efforts on building new progressive “infrastructure”; grass-roots activists yearn for new organizational and media tactics and an aggressive public posture; and still others continue to long for the next incarnation of President Bill Clinton.

"Unfortunately, while each of these approaches offers important insights, the totality of the advice simply misses the mark and obscures the underlying problem driving progressives’ on-going woes nationally: a majority of Americans do not believe progressives or Democrats stand for anything. 1 Despite difficult times for the GOP in early 2006, Republicans continue to hold double-digit advantages over Democrats on the key attribute of “know what they stand for” and fewer than four in 10 voters believe the Democratic Party has “a clear set of policies for the country”. 2 "


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:19 PM
Response to Original message
1. sorry, but this is total bullshit
Edited on Mon Apr-24-06 02:21 PM by welshTerrier2
Democrats should realize that they will do longterm, serious harm to the Party's credibility if they fail to address foreign policy ...

some see an attack on Iran as potentially triggering a world war ... perhaps they're right; perhaps not ... one thing's for sure though, Iran, and of course Iraq, are, and should be, very much on the minds of Americans ...

if Democrats want to be the domestic issues only party, their future will be very dark indeed ...

and btw, the "generals" should not be fighting the war instead of civilian leadership ... the current situation in Iraq has always primarily been a failure of political, not military, leadership ... this is not to excuse Rumsfeld's catastrophic errors ... still, are all these expert generals supposed to be tasked with unifying Iraq's warring political factions?

Democrats should feel free to criticize bush's incompetence but they also need to get behind plans with immediate or near-term deadlines to end the war ... and without confronting bush on Iran, and demanding that he disclose what military operations are already underway there, Democrats will not be trusted as competent leaders on foreign policy ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:20 PM
Response to Original message
2. Just wait til September.
When you're playing poker, you don't show your hand before the flop.

Elections are not won in April. They are won in September and October. There is no point in releasing a plan now, only to give Republicans 6 months worth of time to bash it. The focus right now should be on their incompetence. Make the splash at the end and give them no time with which to counter it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. Negativism is why the GOP was a minority party for so long.
If all you do is respond negatively to what the majority party does, you do not excite the middle of the road/moderate/independents to get off their duffs and get out to vote.

The GOP achieved majority status by cooking up this persona for itself that was complete bullcrap, but America bought it.

The Democrats can show America their true face, and America will believe it. I see no reason to hide our colors. Democrats stand for what Americans value.

Ask yourself WWBD? What Would Bill Do? Or, WWFDRD? Or What Would FDR Do? "New Deal", "Great Society", those things were not about trashing your opponents, they were about what the Dems could do FOR America.

And as for Iran--I have two words that will make Americans happy--United Nations.

:dem:

Or we could follow Pat Buchanan's advise about how to mobilize the GOP base for them, and talk all the time about how we plan to spend our new Democratic majority in Congress in investigation and impeachment mania, getting absolutely nothing done for America. I am sure that this will win lots of Democratic and Independent votes.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-24-06 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. There is a middle ground ...
I agree with your point, but timing is an issue ... Like it or not, the Rs own the media, and if the D's lay it all out now, it WILL get torn apart by September ... You see EVERY gosh darn time they get interviewed ... Be it Wolf, Russert, Mathews ... They get a D, spout the braindead "the D's don't have a plan meme" ... The D lays out healthcare, jobs, honest government, and they just ignor them and repeat the meme ...

ALSO, the public's attention span is so freakin small ... Immigration was RED hot a month ago, and everyone wanted to make it out like it was going to be THE issue come September ... It already is starting to fade a bit, and it is going to take some kind of incident to heat it back up ...

A lot IS going to happen between now and then ... We get some sort of terrorist thing between now and then, and THAT becomes THE issue ...

I DO think the country is VERY ready for universal health care, and everyone is the party has been pushing it ... Roll out the basic points, but hold out the full assault for a little more ...

BTW, Rohm Emmanuel has a book called "the plan" coming out in June ... I think that is when they are targetting getting geared up ...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 04:16 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC