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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:02 AM
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Is it true that Tony Snow is a Freeper and a Racist?
Here's a sample of his blatant racism.


The TRUTH about Kwanzaa

Dec. 31, 1999/22 Teves, 5760
by Tony Snow

BLACKS IN AMERICA have suffered an endless series of insults and degradations, the latest of which goes by the name of Kwanzaa.

Ron Karenga (aka Dr. Maulana Ron Karenga) invented the seven-day feast (Dec. 26-Jan. 1) in 1966, branding it a black alternative to Christmas. The idea was to celebrate the end of what he considered the Christmas-season exploitation of African Americans.

According to the official Kwanzaa Web site -- as opposed, say, to the Hallmark Cards Kwanzaa site -- the celebration was designed to foster "conditions that would enhance the revolutionary social change for the masses of Black Americans" and provide a "reassessment, reclaiming, recommitment, remembrance, retrieval, resumption, resurrection and rejuvenation of those principles (Way of Life) utilized by Black Americans' ancestors."

Karenga postulated seven principles: unity, self-determination, collective work and responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity and faith, each of which gets its day during Kwanzaa week. He and his votaries also crafted a flag of black nationalism and a pledge: "We pledge allegiance to the red, black, and green, our flag, the symbol of our eternal struggle, and to the land we must obtain; one nation of black people, with one G-d of us all, totally united in the struggle, for black love, black freedom, and black self-determination."

Now, the point: There is no part of Kwanzaa that is not fraudulent. Begin with the name. The celebration comes from the Swahili term "matunda yakwanza," or "first fruit," and the festival's trappings have Swahili names -- such as "ujima" for "collective work and responsibility" or "muhindi," which are ears of corn celebrants set aside for each child in a family.

http://www.martinlutherking.org/kwanzaa.html


Don't let the name of the website fool you. Apparently it is a front hosted by the White Supremest Group - Stormfront.

Doesn't the WH do background checks on people any more? Or is being a White Supremest considered a qualification for working in the WH?

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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:06 AM
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1. This is like College Republicans protesting the Vagina Monologues
because they say it demeans women.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:07 AM
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2. I am not defending Snow at all, but that particular story was carried
in several places.

He may not be a white supremacist per se, or at the very least not affiliated with Stormfront. Is he a racist idiot? Definitely.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:26 AM
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9. Where any of the other places that carried this story
any better? Or any more legitimate?

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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:29 AM
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10. Lots of religious and conservative sites carried it. :-(
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:30 AM
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11. Hell, no. I believe Jewish World Review (big neocon source)
was another one.

I'm just clarifying that the story was not exclusive to the Stormfront website.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:48 AM
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15. Who are they?
I looked at their site and they don't identify who the people are that own and operate the site. I did a whois look up and they have their registration info blocked.

What about these other supposedly 'religious' sites?

Certainly you would think that a site name MartinLutherKing.org was a legitimate MLK site but it's not. I think Jewish World and some of these others are in the same boat.

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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:46 AM
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17. I wouldn't doubt it.
Though Michael Medved (shuddder) mentioned it a couple times on his show, and he's Jewish. I used to listen to keep my blood pressure going. :)

As for the MLK site, I agree. That's nefarious. Someone here pointed out that it was a white power site before.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:05 PM
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36. Medved's Jewish?
Then why does he support the Fundies? His book "America versus the mass media was all fundie.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:59 PM
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39. Indeed he is.
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 08:59 PM by Beware the Beast Man
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Medved

Odd, yes, considering he was on the Fundie talk channel here in Cleveland. That was a strange time in my life. I liken it to aural mortification of the flesh. :)
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:48 PM
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38. Right on the bottom of the home page
is a link to their site - http://www.stormfront.org/forum/ (Enter at your own risk)

Here's the Home Page for the MLK site http://www.martinlutherking.org/

At a glance it looks like a legitimate site honoring MLK. But read a few of their links, including the Tony Snow's article and it is apparent that this is a bunch of racist wackos.

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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:08 AM
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3. Yes he was a freeper until yesterday
when they scrubbed his account and all his postings.

As for being a racist, Tony "Snow" speaks for himself
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:08 AM
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4. Interesting.... this administration could care less about someone's
background.....as long as they fit the two top qualifying factors of being a good republican....greed and mean-spirited.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:13 AM
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5. Is water wet?
Does a bear sh*t in the woods?

It won't take much digging to find his true racist roots.

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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:16 AM
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7. LOL- beat me to it
Was just going to post "does a bear shit in the woods".

LOL :D
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:14 AM
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6. Not only a racist, a deeply entrenched one who goes to great
lengths in this article to make his case against the entire black race.

Remember Bennett? Bush favors racists. But then, he is the son of Babs.

:puke:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:25 AM
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8. Someone had a great post about Regnery publishing's owner and
white supremists. I didn't bookmark it.

Anyone have it?
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:32 AM
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12. Why do you hate America?
So his works were published with David Duke ... oh well.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:38 AM
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13. Will being a racist affect his job?
How many non-white reporters cover the White House beat?

Although I wonder why Free Republic would scrub the account of its only member who has a job?

(Heavy snark warning for the preceding post. Be warned.)
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 08:42 AM
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14. Hey!
They have work! The Porta-Potty Patrol!
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:42 AM
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16. If it's false, yes.
If it's true, then no.

Stating facts can never be racist, in and of itself.

That being said, I know nothing about Kwaanza, and not being black, have no real interest in it. Why shouldn't they celebrate whatever the;y want to, true or false, just like everybody else?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:04 AM
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18. What facts?
The whole article is a twisted bunch of racist crap.

If we want to get picky Easter and Christmas are made up holidays too.

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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:36 AM
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21. Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear.
I don't know ANYTHING about Kwanzaa. I have no basis to say if the "facts" are facts, or not. I was making a philosophical point. If a statement is factual, it cannot be racist. Perhaps I'll educate myself about Kwanzaa before stating an opinion about it. But so far, I haven't stated such an opinion.

Sorry, but facts (and logic, for that matter) are not racist, tolerant, liberal, or conservative. They are not Christian, Marxist, Jewish, or Muslim. They are rocks that all false philosophies and opinions will break upon when they come in conflict with them. Or, the bearer of such opinions will break.
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Radio_Guy Donating Member (875 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:19 AM
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19. You can't be one without being the other
Freepers and racists go hand in hand.
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:40 AM
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22. Now that's not true.
I have noted a number of racists right here on DU. They just seem to be prejudiced against white men. I'm not talking about philosophical or cultural differences, either. I'm talking about out and out statements that the world would be better off if white men couldn't vote, that white men are only motivated by hate, etc. Always, of course, with the disclaimer that they are not talking about all white men.

I will admit that there are not a lot of them, and that there are other DUers that point out their racism and hypocrisy. But they are not FReepers (unless they are trolls. That might be a possibility.)
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:24 PM
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29. Burning Water !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you've seen even ONE DU'er who is a racist, I can guaran-damn-tee you that you've stumbled across an embedded Freeper!



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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 09:13 PM
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40. Well, I don' t see any racism
against blacks, hispanics or Asians on DU. Nor much prejudice against Muslims, pagans, Buddhists, or atheist. And that's as it should be.

But there is definite bigotry on DU against whites, especially men, especially heterosexual ones, especially from the South, or Christians. "Whites" are a "race", insofar as that word has any meaning. Hence, yes, I find racism on DU. And it is as ugly here as anywhere else. Nor do I believe the perpetrators should be let off the hook, but should be challenged at every opportunity.

Fortunately, it is only by a few misguided souls, but I very seriously doubt that they are FReepers. Might be wrong, but I'll stick by my hypothesis.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:24 AM
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20. Freep scrubbed Snow's posts but here they are:
The Freep scrubbed (deleted) all of Tony Snows posts, but here they are.

Click on the "Cached" links and then look for the highlighted "by Tony Snow" posts.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22by+tony+snow%22+site%3Afreerepublic.com&num=30&meta=site%3Dsearch
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 10:57 AM
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23. How do we verify and confirm that he wrote this . . .
. . .and more importantly he wrote it for a site which is a front for Stormfront?
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 11:47 AM
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24. The article is signed by Tony Snow a reporter for the Detroit News
Tony Snow worked for the Detroit News before he went to FAUX.

Also DailyKos and a few other sites had threads about this article when it first appeared and they are the ones who uncovered the connection between the MLK site and Stormfront.

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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:43 PM
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25. Hope his pointy cap gets knocked off as he enters the WH Press room.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:47 PM
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26. Here's an old family photo that I found
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:52 PM
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27. Man, that begs for a caption! "Fun at a RW radio talk-host convention"
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 03:55 PM by Lastlaughin08
Thanks for the pic.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:16 PM
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28. On Stephanie Miller's show this morning, they read off several of....
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 04:18 PM by larissa
Mr. Snow's ---VERY--- RACIST writings from the Free Republic.

Like someone else mentioned, they also said that Free Republic has been frantically scrubbing their files to remove all of Snow's comments -- because they are DEFINITELY RACIST!

With enough Googling, you can find some of Tony Snow's old post at Freak Republic though.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 04:41 PM
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30. Ahhh come on, it is COMPASSIONATE Racism
:evilgrin:
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:21 PM
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32. Maybe, but on FR he was on the side of immigrants, or at least he took
Bush's side in the immigration battle that totally divided freepers and got many of them thrown off. I guess he knew he was going to get this job, and adjusted his thinking accordingly, as did JimRob ~ they're all turning into liberals, according to some freeps.

He won't be posting on FR under his real name, but I doubt he will be leaving. He's been a freeper for eight years, along with Mark Levin and Sean Hannity, not to mention their most famous freeper, Jeff Gannon. Mark Levin's screen name is 'holdonnow' over there ~

Anyone who was a freeper since 1998, is not only a regular freep, he's a co-conspirator in the Clinton saga. Mark Levin apparently told freepers that he was part of a demonstration to get Clinton impeached. What a gang of operators they all are.

I think FR, Drudge, Rush et al were all put in place in anticipation of the neocons taking over ~ I never did watch Fox for the past several years. This must be the first time this country actually had a widespread propaganda arm in the media including the internet, and the crowd that set up Jeff Gannon ~ no wonder we could not get a word in anywhere. The real media seems to have been unaware of this. Dan Rather's producer only became aware of them when she was viciously attacked by Freepers.

Now the whole scheme has been uncovered though ~ so it will never again be as effective as it was, imo.
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:10 PM
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31. Oho!

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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:22 PM
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:26 PM
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34. The only thing I need to know at this point is:
Is that the same Tony Snow? The opinion expressed by him is arguably "legitimate" discourse. But it's that of a committed ideolog. were Dubya a "normal" president, Snow would be a very unsuitable choice. Bur for Dubya ... it sounds like the most natural thing imaginable.

Without TV, I haven't the slightest idea of what he's like. But elsewhere on dU, someone had asked how he'd hold up under brisk and unscripted questioning. My guess, considering where he came from, would be NO. It should be very iunteresting.

pnorman
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:30 PM
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35. He needs a nickname. Big Tony Snowjob or Blowjob?
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 06:14 PM
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37. I don't think being a white supremecist is a requirement...
but it looks good on the resume.
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the other one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 06:51 AM
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41. Not all Republicans are rascists!
Of course, every rascist is a republican...
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:22 AM
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42. And now DU has his article, is he a DUer now?
I hate to say it, but the fact that a racist organization like stormfront is hosting his article doesn't mean anything.

Now I really hate to say this, but the first amendment gives Crony Blow the freedom to publish an article denying the authenticity of Kwanzaa just like we have the right on DU to deny the authenticity of the Bush administration.
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