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MostlyLurks Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:13 PM
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Is Snow's Appointment A "First"?
Ignorant of common political churn, I have this to ask: Is Snow's appointment as press secy unusual in that it takes a member of the established "press" into the administration, essentially fusing the Admin with a segment of the press?

I was under the impression that press secretaries were generally PR flacks from the coporate, business or government world, and not actual members of the press establishment.

Yes, yes, I know, this gives Snow too much credit for being a member of the "press" but you know what I mean.

Mostly
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:15 PM
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1. They shoulda' got Geraldo
:sarcasm:
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:24 PM
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6. Geraldo could have opened *'s Vault of Secrets, and we
would find out about who leaked Valerie Plame's name, were there ever any weapons of mass destruction, or what happened to the records of his National Guard duties. Bush crime family and Al Capone's Vault. Perfect fit. A new degree of openness.

Also, whether he used cocaine, paid for an abortion, etc.?
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:26 PM
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7. LOL!
I wasn't even thinking of the Al Capone vault thing :thumbsup: :hi:
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:03 PM
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13. Whenever I hear Geraldo's name, that's all I think about. Forever linked
to eternity for me. What hype!! All for nothing. There's no substance there. There's no "there" there. The beginning of the end for reality shows, and it was the beginning. Most of us would never show our face again.
But all that being said, I think that under a new policy of openness, * could save his Presidency by letting Geraldo open that Vault of Secrets.

Of course, I'm just kidding.

But maybe, just maybe, we could find out what really happens at the Crawford ranch. What is its facination? How can anyone spend one day there, let alone vacation after vacation after vacation? It's like a time share that forces you to spend every vacation there. It's becoming George Bush's Vault.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:44 PM
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15. Oh good gawd...whenever I see or hear the name Geraldo,
I think of Jim Ward's (of the Stephanie Miller Show) impersonation of him, including the disco music. Haha. I can just see Geraldo doing poppers at the podium. :rofl:
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rusty_parts2001 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:16 PM
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2. No, Ron Nessen of NBC worked for Gerald Ford as Press Flack
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MostlyLurks Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:35 PM
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10. Thanks for the information.
Much as a like DU, the tendancy to ignore the point of a thread can be a bit grating, but it does make the on-point posts stand out all the more.

Thanks again.

Mostly
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:18 PM
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3. Well, there was that Goebbels guy . . .
but we won't mention him. . .
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plusfiftyfive Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:27 PM
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8. I think maybe we should remember him!
Expecially in these days!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:18 PM
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4. Even the press is calling him a "conservative commentator-journalist"
Not a 'regular' journalist...

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:21 PM
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5. He's NOT a professional journalist...
He's a professional propagandist.

Personally, I'm thrilled that they've made such an idiotic choice.

Peace.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:51 PM
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12. Oh, I haven't heard anyone use that "professional" word!!!
He was my pick, as well. It's a dream come true...
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:00 PM
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16. He's not conservative, and neither is Bush
They are right wing.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:08 PM
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18. Sure, but my point was that the COMMENTATOR aspect is being highlighted
They are in essence, calling him a "qualified" journalist, in that he plays one on TV, as opposed to a QUALIFIED journalist.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:30 PM
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9. Not really, unless you are trying to make Fox a legit news organization
Edited on Wed Apr-26-06 12:35 PM by Jack Rabbit
LBJ appointed Edward R. Murrow director of the USIA and John Chancellor director of the Voice of America.

Ron Nessen, who had been a visible correspondent at NBC News, was President Ford's press secretary.

However, there was nothing like FoxNews in those days. A few local stations might have an ideologically biased anchor (as a teenager in Los Angeles, I remember George Putnam, a shameless Cold War right winger). Other local news correspondents may have resigned their positions to run for public office; when this happened, it was just as likely to be a Republican as a Democrat. When I was growing up south of Sacramento, a local TV news man named Don Smith ran as a Republican for the State Assembly and later, while living in LA, local news anchor Baxter Ward ran for the County Board of Supervisors, a nonpartisan office. However Smith and Ward were both less editorial than Putnam. Neither tried to impose their views on their audience as Putnam did.

FoxNews is George Putnam gone national. That is probably an insult to Putnam's journalistic integrity. There is simply no pretense of objectivity. Each of the news anchors may as well be wearing Bush buttons.

ON EDIT

In the case of Nessen, I was unaware of what his political leanings were until he took the White House position. For the most part, that is as it should be.

However, nobody can doubt what Mr. Snow's leanings are; or, for that matter, those of any other FoxNews personality. Fox exists to promote right wing propaganda, not real news.

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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 12:46 PM
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11. I say they should have picked O'Liely. He has the ego and and
is narcicistic enough to be able to yell anyone down (Even our favorite, Helen Thomas). He wouldn't have taken it though. Not enough money for him to keep up his faloopha collection.
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 01:35 PM
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14. G Gordon Liddy
would be fun to see defending Bush as press secretary.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 03:31 PM
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17. a number of press secretaries were reporters first
including the very first press secretary, Steven Early (under FDR). Others include Charles G. Ross (Truman); Pierre Salinger (JFK); George Christian (LBJ). As far as I can tell, Snow is the second press secretary to come from the world of television (Ron Nessen during the Ford administration being the first).

onenote
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:22 PM
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19. Pierre Salinger worked as a reporter for The San Francisco Chronicle...
and as a contributing Editor to Collier's in the 1940s and 1950s.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-26-06 05:49 PM
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20. It'll be the first time a Snow came and a Snow went if...
John Snow leaves at Treasury. :)
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