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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:40 PM
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Interesting/Disturbing Speculation In A Rasmussen Poll Released Today
The poll is entitled: Election 2008: Democrats By 12. Typical poll stuff showing the should the presidential election be held today, Democrats would get 44% of the vote, with the GOP getting 32%

All well and good, but since no candidates are actually named, probaby much more reflective of the national mood today than anything else.

But here is where it gets interesting/disturbing:

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The survey also asked respondents how they would vote if "a third party candidate ran in 2008 and promised to build a barrier along the Mexican border and make enforcement of immigration law his top priority."

With that option, support fell sharply for both major parties. The Democrats still come out on top with support from 31% of Americans. The third party candidate moved into a virtual tie at 30%, while the GOP fell to 21%.
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My question here: are we about to see the first racially based third party campaign in the U.S. since George Wallace ran in 1968? And would such a candidacy receive the kind of support this poll indicates? And if so, who will our Jean-Marie Le Pen be?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2006/April%20Dailies/Election%202008.htm

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:44 PM
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1. Wait until May 1,2,3,4 - The national no more bull shit day by Latinos
May 1, why now. Enough of knee jerk stupidity about "obeying the law." Where are these people and their outrage about every other law * broke. He took us to war on a lie. I'm sure that's illegal. He lied about Kyoto, duh. He lied about the tax cut. He gives sweet heart no-bid deals to his buddies. That's illegal, period.

Oh, tell me about the law on one issue when you remain somnolent on law breaking on all others. The level of outrage is commensurate to the level of latent or surface racism. Sad.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:49 PM
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4. I'm telling you...May 1st is gonna be HUGE!!!!!
Good on them...show the rest of this lazy ass country how to stand the fuck up!!!!!!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:17 PM
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9. I'm waiting and hoping it blows minds.
The Latino/Latina community in this country is not monolithic by any means. However, every element of the larger coalition knows what it's like to be called a felon now...just for knowing (but not reporting an undocumented worker). What a disgrace especially since Sensenbrenner is the author or sponsor of that legislation.

What I like about the May 1st movement (my name for all the protests) is there is no "leader." What a terrible thing for MSM. They don't have a Jesse Jackson to trash and thus allow the bigots to dismiss an entire movement (I like Jackson and feel he was treated unfairly). They don't have anything other than raw bigotry. That's what we're seeing with this damn fence. BIGOTRY. Somebody better get out there and tell the truth. This is the EXACT SAME TYPE OF STUPIDITY THAT GOT US IN IRAQ.

I don't know about other areas, but in Northern Virginia, there would be few new homes with out undocumented workers (who become eligible for state labor laws and workman's compensation...which is damn fair, I think).

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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:47 PM
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2. Tom "Pig Fucker" Tancredo, baby.


Come on, you crazy bastard. Be a nader!
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:49 PM
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3. not racist at all.. just defending our jobs from others
americans did all those eleven million jobs before the influx of mexicans.

it is sad that anyone is jobless. The current situation is , either mexicans or americans hold those eleven million jobs.

no racism at all.. it is a job conflict.

best solution would be a WPA both in mexico and america, giving total employment to both nations.

we shouldnt be in this fix of conflict with each other.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:50 PM
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5. Is it about "race"?
<<are we about to see the first racially based third party campaign>>

Suppose Canda's economy tanked and Canadian's started pouring over the border to tak American jobs. Would that be about "race" or would it be about properly securing our borders regardless of who is entering illegally?
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mr.alleycat Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 09:57 PM
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6. Elated
No the question is.....
Who will be our Bill Clinton?
Since the third party in 92 split the conservatives.

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earthside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:09 PM
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7. What are you talking about?
So protecting the borders of our own nation is now cause to be characterized as "racially based"?

Not hardly. I'm about as liberal/progressive as you can get and I believe that the borders must be secured ... race has absolutely nothing to do with it.

But if you want to go down that path ... I don't understand the arrogance of mostly suburban white Americans getting all "bleeding hearted" about thinking it is just great that Mexicans are leaving the land of their birth to come and be our servants.

I'm for a revolution in Mexico to throw out the elite plutocracy that uses NAFTA to exploit poor Mexicans and forces potential political 'troublemakers' to migrate to the U.S.

Besides, I am very skeptical of anything where I would be on the same side as George W. Bush ... he too is for a "guest peon" program and thinks all the illegal immigrants now in our country should be able to become citizens.

No, this is not about race, it is about wages and benefits for our own citizens -- of all ethnicites -- and about Mexico becoming a better place to live.

But the message of the poll is that knee-jerk liberals are in danger of risking a reactionary getting into the presidency in two years if they don't start putting our own folks first.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 11:45 PM
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10. I have given this much thought
And I agree with you.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-27-06 10:14 PM
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8. The right wing will promise to build and won't. End of BorderParty But,.
Dems could still win.
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