John Gibson: "Angry and sad" Neil Young & Pink "blame the wrong leaders"

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

Neil Young and Pink Blame Wrong Leaders
Friday, April 28, 2006
By John Gibson



http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193659,00.html

Neil Young, the Canadian singer who has been living in the U.S. for the last 40 years, has released a new album taking a shot at President Bush and the war in Iraq. It's called "Living With War." The line that struck me was, "I never bow to the laws of the thought police." Another song is called "Let's Impeach the President." Impeach him for lying, impeach him for misleading us into war, for spying on people inside their own homes. Debates with musicians are always problematical. You may have reason on your side, but they've got the rhythm section and the lead guitar. Hard to beat that. Then there's Pink. She's got a new song called "Mr. President" in which she imagines taking a walk with the president and discussing war, No Child Left Behind, and asks him how he can live with himself. I'm all for artists speaking out. I lived through the '60s, too. In fact, I worked in the music business back then, and everybody was against war. That was because we started a war we didn't have to. Everybody knew that.

Things are different nowadays for me. When I think of the war, I think of Flight 93. I wonder if Neil Young and Pink are going to go see that. I wonder if they would accept free tickets from me. I also commend to them the recent tapes of bin Laden and Zarqawi and Zawahiri. They continue to promise to kill us, as many of us as possible. In fact, Zarqawi promised just a day or two ago that the worst is yet to come.

Wonder if they listen to Neil Young and Pink? Doubt it. Think they would spare Neil Young and Pink while they killed the rest of us because, after all, Neil Young and Pink are against war and want peace? If Zarqawi and bin Laden are against Bush, they must be against war, right? You might think so if all you listened to was Neil Young and Pink.

The last song on Young's "Living With War" is "America the Beautiful." Unlike the Reconquista crowd, Neil Young didn't change the words. He sings the words as they have always been sung, but you get the feeling that now — on his album "Living With War" — they are an indictment, an accusation. "America the beautiful, purple mountain majesties. Amber waves of grain from sea to shining sea." The idea is that in Iraq we have turned our backs on America's ideals. Young and Pink are angry and sad. 9/11 is a distant memory. They don't feel threatened by anybody but our own president. This is what it has come to. They are forgetful. They have amnesia. They blame the wrong leaders. They are proud of their opposition. And they couldn't be more wrong.

[DanCa]

1. Hah I bet if he listened to Mcmurtry or Springsteen or Stephan Smith

He'd even get more upset.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

2. Tie 9/11 to Iraq AGAIN.

Fucking asshole. :grr:

[Skittles]

26. he is a republican whore, that's his job

:puke:

[Warpy]

3. It takes a tremendous amount of research to be wrong about everything

but Gibson seems to be up to it.

I think he's angling for Rove's job.

[blondeatlast]

28. David Brock took a full length book to explain what you just said.

That sums it up fronm the Heritage Foundation, to Rove, to the administration, to the willing lap dogs, to the FAUX viewers.

:rofl:

[No New War]

4. Getting Old...

Doesn't the "If you're not with us, you're a goddamn terrorist who eats babies" schtick get a little bit old after a while? It's amazing that they can wrap a false dichotomy with ad hominem attacks so neatly.

[rodeodance]

5. the RW talk shows are have a cow over this album. te he

[Jade Fox]

11. Wingers hate art....

and the power it has to affect people.

[Sal316]

6. One sentence proves Gibson an idiot.

"When I think of the war, I think of Flight 93."

:argh:

(profanity laced rant edidted for television)

[alarimer]

14. Catapulting the propaganda, isn't he?

IRAQ had nothing to do with 9/11. It was a completely unnecessary war, just like Vietnam.

[Clark2008]

7. The fundamental problems with Gibson's editorial are

1.) Iraq had nothing to do with the taking down of Flight 93. In fact, it might even be debatable that our own government took it down (which, really is fine, if it indeed was being hijacked). Therefore, Neil Young and Pink aren't "sad" in their assessment, but accurate. And, what's so wrong with being angry when the times warrant it?
And,
2.) Most people ARE against this war now, as they were against Vietnam:
There are enormous differences between the war in Iraq and the one in Vietnam that defined a generation. The current conflict hasn't lasted as long, taken nearly as many American lives or sparked the sort of anti-war movement that marked the '60s and '70s.

But when it comes to public opinion, Americans' attitudes toward Iraq and the course ahead are strikingly similar to public attitudes toward Vietnam in the summer of 1970, a pivotal year in that conflict and a time of enormous domestic unrest.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-11-15-poll-vietnam_x.htm

But, since Gibson doesn't live in the world of reality, he probably can't see this simple fact.

[Gregorian]

8. I thought journalism required vision. Truth.

Why are so many Americans so blind. So stupid. And how can we let those people be in public? I guess intelligence isn't a virtue in America.

Where are the true guts? If these people support the war so much, why are they sitting here behind desks? Should they not be fighting that war they like so much?

I just know one thing- If I needed help, I would call on Neil Young long before that jackass who wrote this article.

[Clark2008]

13. Not to defend the idiot, but it is an opinion piece.

He's entitled to opinion that Neil Young and Pink are "sad and angry," but, you're correct in assuming that he's not entitled to his own facts.

However, it should be noted that there are still thousands of "morans" out there that think the war in Iraq DOES have something to do with 9/11. You'd think, though, that a newsperson - whether he's a journalist or a columnist - would KNOW that the two aren't connected by now. Hell, even Shrub has admitted that much.

[blondeatlast]

29. We need to make a careful distinction between journalism (yes,

it does still exist--it's just hard to find) and soothing the embattled psyches of FAUX viewers.

[LeighAnn]

9. Didn't realize he was a sell-out, too

On top of everything else. It was bad enough him just being a right-wing bonehead, but apparently now it comes out that he once had ideals?

And I'm having a hard time picturing him in the 60's music scene. What did he do, play keyboards for the Way-Outs?

Yuck.

[Jade Fox]

10. "That was because we started a war we didn't have to. "

Unlike the invasion of Iraq, which was necessary?

[NI4NI]

22. Gibson the goofy goon!

Not only were both wars unnecessary, but the lies about the Gulf of Tonkin then, and the lies about WMD's now, were told to build public support.

[joefree1]

12. Why would anyone care what Faux News has to say

it's just snake oil for the brain dead. I'm sure Pink and Neil could care less.

[NYCGirl]

15. Neil Young wrote a song about United Flight 93 some years ago —

that gasbag Gibson sure doesn't do his research before he shoots off his mouth!


"Let's Roll"

I know I said I love you,
I know you know it's true,
I've got to put the phone down,
and do what we got to do.

One's standing in the iselway,
Two more at the door,
We've got to get inside there,
Before they kill somemore.

Time is runnin' out,
Let's roll.
Time is runnin' out,
Let's roll.

No time for indecision,
We've got to make a move,
I hope that were foregiven,
For what we got to

How this all got started,
I'll never understand,
I hope someone can fly this thing,
And get us back to land.

Time is runnin' out,
Let's roll.
Time is runnin' out,
Let's roll.

No one has the answer,
But one thing is true,
You've got to turn on evil,
When it's coming after you,
You've gota face it down,
And when it tries to hide,
You've gota go in after it,
And never be denied,
Time is runnin' out,
Let's roll.

Let's roll for freedome,
Let's roll for love,
We're going after satan,
On the wings of a dove,
Let's roll for justice,
Let's roll for truth,
Let's not let our children,
Grow up fearfull in there youth.

Time is runnin' out,
Let's roll.
Time is runnin' out,
Let's roll.
Time is runnin' out,
Let's roll.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/neilyoung/letsroll.html

[rodeodance]

16. the RW is making a mockery of our anger at the IMMORALITY going

on in this country.

[rodeodance]

17. yuk--his pic is terrible--and a small mind to go with it.

[Arkansas Granny]

18. Personally, if I tried really, really hard I might, just might, be able

to give a sh** about what John Gibson thinks.

[fooj]

19. Gibson is the one who is angry...him and all of his RW shills!

[saltpoint]

20. The trendlines suggest that Neil Young & Pink are right & that Gibson is

wrong.

Their music seeks to make people aware of, and to acknowledge the severity of the crisis Bush has put us in, and to inspire compassion for people who have sacrificed in many ways.

Gibson's comments are designed to suppress dissent by demonization.

Between FOX News analysts and engaged, socially-conscious musicians, I'm goin' with the musicians every time.

[Jack Rabbit]

21. Does Gibson believe his own horsepucky?

Invading Iraq still had nothing to do with frighting terrorism and no matter how often he and other propagandists at FoxNews and elsewhere try to say "Osama" in the same sentence with "Saddam" it will not make it so.

Bush's invasion of Iraq was colonial piracy, pure and simple; in that, Bush and his aides are turning their backs on American ideals. Freedom and democracy are impatable with imperialism.

Neil Young and Pink haven't forgotten anything. It is Mr. Bush and now John Gibson who seem to have forgotten that Osama bin Laden, not Saddam Hussein, attacked the US on September 11, 2001.

[ComerPerro]

32. To me, John Gibson will always be remembered for when, on TDS

Jon Stewart tricked him into admitting that Fox News Channel was a lot like Al Jezeera

[w8liftinglady]

23. don't forget merle haggard,james mcmurtrey,jackson browne

have all written anti-war,protest songs recently.
also,even Toby keith has one on his latest album

[ComerPerro]

31. toby keith? are you serious?

[zulchzulu]

24. What Gibson thinks = What dogshit smells like

No thanks...

[Lindacooks]

25. God, get some dental work done, Gibson.

And come out of your Koolaid denial-land. Bush et al and the Repukes ARE the leaders and they're the only ones to blame.

[Faygo Kid]

27. Ohmigod. I just found this. New top dog on excrement food chain.

I knew this guy was a flaming a**hole, and made plenty of bucks off the "War on Christmas," but I had no idea he was this big, ignorant, apologist, fraudulent, cowardly, lieing blowhole. Hey, butthead, we wanted to go after Bin Laden, but Bush had other "ideas." And Cheney once again had "other priorities." This guy is truly scum of the earth. Anybody know this jerk's background? How do you sell your soul so completely to Fox News? Thanks for letting me rant. And not only that, a really nice guy looks like he could be related!

[ComerPerro]

30. The right wing of this country is like a sick death cult

"remember 9/11", "remember 9/11", all day.

Fuck you, John Gibson. I do remember 9/11. Very vividly. And I blame the president. At the very best, his laziness, incompetence, and overall lack of leadership caused the needless death of thousands. At the very worst, he is criminally complacent in a terrorist exercise carried out by a government on its own citizens in order to justify needless wars.


And, by the way, if these assholes actually are still stuck living on 9/11/01, why aren't they wondering why Bush doesn't seem to give a shit where Osama is?

[MSgt213]

33. Oh for christ sake that picture scare the shit out of me.

[Zorra]

34. Things are different now...yuh...he became a yuppie, made a

little cash, voted for Reagan, and sold his soul to the highest bidder.

What a pile of milquetoast schlock.:puke: