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dtotire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:22 PM Original message |
Mark Warner |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. I don't think so. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. lol! |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. I hope we can do better. Warner is bland, Repub-Lite, DLC. |
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jerry611 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. A far-left liberal won't bring the country together |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Jimmy Carter was an outside governor from the South, too, and he |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 08:54 AM Response to Reply #7 |
63. "Far-left liberal" is an oxymoron. Liberals are moderate by definition. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 11:09 AM Response to Reply #7 |
72. The DLC is NOT moderate - it's pro-corporate. |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 02:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
123. Are there any Maoists or Stalinists running for the nomination? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. An effective Dem Governor in a GOP State. Not perfect, but electable |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. Mark "come lately" Warner? |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. A plausible scenario. And the man has strong support in Virginia, |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
6. the Polling rReport had him at only 2% |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
78. Bill Clinton had all of 1% in 1990. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Warmed-over Liebermanism. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I disagree. Joe's a total tool of AIPAC. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:09 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I like AIPAC. Too bad if you don't. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Wow! A pro-Likud anti-Republican. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Tough? Only on DU. In the real world, it's no sweat. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I thought I'd seen it all. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. They're pro-Israel and prosemitic. What's not to like? |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. that's like saying the GOP is pro-American |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. You need to learn some tolerance. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 04:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I'm not calling for anyone to leave. Just surprised you're still here. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Actually it's quite easy. |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. My impression as an outside observer is that those who oppose the PNAC |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 04:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. My only connection was a $25 a year donation. Which ended about a |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 05:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. So Warner was just speaking to AIPAC a month or so ago.... |
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ItsTheMediaStupid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
68. Warner has his own money, which I believe he earned |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. Oh that's just foolish. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
9. no thanks |
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caledesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. dt - good post. Got me interested enough to go here: |
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dtotire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 05:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Warner |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 05:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. oops......you forgot to state the reasons WHY |
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Aaaargh (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
15. Why are we Democrats in the first place, folks? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. well, speaking just for me |
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jerry611 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Then we will lose every single election... |
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Clarkansas (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 05:42 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. I like Warner alot |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 09:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
66. That's how the Republicans have won all three branches of government.... |
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Clarkansas (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
34. Your logic reminds me of Nader voters in 2000. |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 06:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Agreed. |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
17. Do you also predict the weather more than two years in advance? |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
19. What did Warner have to say about the Genocide in Darfur? |
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Clarkansas (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
33. I like Warner, Clark and a few others as well but I can tell you that |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 06:13 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. DU loves to hate candidates who haven't been knighted... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 08:18 AM Response to Reply #33 |
62. Wow. Just wow. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Oh double wow. "So if you have Clark in your name" |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. JNelson6563......You're a "swarm" all by your lonesome..... |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Almost |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:08 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. I don't know about that.....because IF you were consistent, you'd notice |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 05:08 AM Response to Reply #83 |
118. A bit early for me |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 11:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
73. I don't hate Warber - I'm just tired of the pro-corporate crowd. |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. Mark Warner is a truly effective leader... |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
81. :: whisper:: Its because they fear him :: whisper :: |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. Have those who don't support Warner for President provided you |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #88 |
121. Here it goes... |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:44 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. Warner as the future Secretary of Commerce causes no fear. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 03:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. We sure in the fuck do! Hear, hear...Pithy Cherub! n/t |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 05:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
106. You're right. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Which would make a "smart" Democrat , suspicious..... |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 03:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
126. What press? |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
40. Excellent handicapping by the author |
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jackpan1260 (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
41. I have been impressed with Warner |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 06:58 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Amen! |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:06 PM Response to Reply #41 |
82. Hear, hear |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 09:07 PM Response to Original message |
43. What about the fact he has no foreign policy experience... |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. I don't see that as a weakness. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. If you think not having foreign policy experience in 2008 will not be... |
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Placebo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 09:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. I honestly don't think it makes a bit of difference. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 09:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Thats one of the reasons I hope for a Clark and Warner ticket |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. ..."lost in the eyes of most voters" |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 10:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Well by that standard, Reagan lost too. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. By that standard, so did Nixon |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 10:09 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. What is your problem? |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 10:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. No problem...just pointing out some historical facts |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 10:23 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. WRONG. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
103. At least get your facts right when you post them. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
102. Adams, Van Buren, Fillmore, and Cleveland are incorrect. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 12:26 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Just as long as Wes Clark is not used as Mark Warner's Dick Cheney..... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Apr-30-06 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
54. I will still support Senator Kerry. Kerry actually knows what is going |
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dtotire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 11:06 AM Response to Reply #54 |
71. Kerry |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Since foreign affairs dominate the current agenda and Warner lacks |
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JeffR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
55. My dog has a better chance than Warner in '08 |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
104. And who do you support? |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
57. His comments on healthcare on Franken a couple of weeks ago |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:08 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. His last name isn't Clark |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. If one gives a list of reasons why they don't want a particular |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. The only reason Clark supporters need |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Mark Warner hasn't done anything TO me.....nor has he done anything |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
93. Boo freakin hoo |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 03:02 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. You mentioned Clark, not the Clark supporter.... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 03:13 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. She is a noted Clark supporter |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. If you are gonna start with anyone, maybe you should start with |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 03:38 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Thanks |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 03:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. You can only confuse some of the people, some of the time..... |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Pot meet kettle |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
105. That's not fair |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
60. If by "Mark Warner", he means "Al Gore", I agree 100%! n/t |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #60 |
110. Gore is running hard right now as a populist and he's comfortable. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 01:35 AM Response to Reply #110 |
114. I like a Gore-Feingold ticket, myself. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 04:16 AM Response to Original message |
61. Blech, worse than Clinton |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
64. Warner's delusional, apparently. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
67. . |
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burythehatchet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
69. I'd support Warner |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
80. Great read! Thanks! |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
84. Leftie Dem from VA here: Great Governor, Closet Liberal, Boldness Needed |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:16 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. In Virginia of all places... |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. He's decisive and moves quickly as needed. In VA it's always a |
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nickshepDEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. By the way, he's from IN, grew up in CT, and has resided in VA |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Thank sk knew it was one of those MW states...IN is even better. |
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dtotire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
87. Warner's Web Site |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
89. Mark Warner is not a conservative Democrat! |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 01:28 AM Response to Reply #89 |
113. He doesn't support Medicare for all |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 05:08 PM Response to Reply #113 |
129. Do you a link to where Warner said he "doesn't support Medicare"? |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
96. Mark Warner was a great governor of my state |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-01-06 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
107. I Actually Like Warner a Lot |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 12:29 AM Response to Reply #107 |
111. About time we tried that approach |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 03:32 AM Response to Reply #111 |
116. I'm selling out no longer |
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DoveTurnedHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 04:31 PM Response to Reply #116 |
120. Wishful Thinking |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #116 |
130. Name one "liberal" who RAN as a liberal & then won the Pres. election |
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slay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
109. Screw that - Gore won in 2000, he'll win again in 2008 |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
112. Meet Mark Warner : Corporate Puppet |
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midnight armadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 02:48 AM Response to Original message |
115. I'll pass |
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Walt Disney (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 04:46 AM Response to Original message |
117. I agree, he will beat McCain in a close election. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-02-06 05:32 AM Response to Original message |
119. Another reason to support Warner-- he'll split the GOP |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #119 |
125. There is more than one way to split the Republican vote |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
122. Hey "Dan".... |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
124. Howard Fineman article from June 2005.... |
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infogirl (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 04:17 PM Response to Original message |
127. Liberal is somewhere between... |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
128. "Democrats" who don't like Mark Warner are more likely a) Republicans |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
131. Help me, I have a Warner stuck in my throat |
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Left Below (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 06:39 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. NEWSFLASH! There is no "liberal" Dem who can win a single |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-03-06 06:40 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. That's nice. Get back to me after 2006 midterms, won't you? |
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