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BurtWorm
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Tue Feb-03-04 10:29 PM Original message |
NH BBV?: Dean within 2% of Kerry in hand counts, creamed in digital counts |
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cthrumatrix
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Tue Feb-03-04 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. IF the media really wanted to investigate...look at this ..what happened? |
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BurtWorm
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Tue Feb-03-04 10:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Good luck getting Democrats interested in investigating Democratic BBV! |
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Trajan
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Tue Feb-03-04 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's magic ... |
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cthrumatrix
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Tue Feb-03-04 10:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Tweey and company should ask about this instead of crowning Kerry |
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AndyHammond1970
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Tue Feb-03-04 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. Does anyone know if Dean's people are looking into this? |
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Bombtrack
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Tue Feb-03-04 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. The GOP would've much rather faced Dean than Kerry |
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BurtWorm
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Tue Feb-03-04 10:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. You're still left with this peculiar anomaly |
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nancyharris
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Wed Feb-04-04 11:56 AM Response to Reply #7 |
23. You’re still left with THIS particular anomaly |
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Mile Hi
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Wed Feb-04-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. Come on |
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Lori Price CLG
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Tue Feb-03-04 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. Well, we need to take it to the streets. |
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HawkerHurricane
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Tue Feb-03-04 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
9. earlier thread... |
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BurtWorm
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Tue Feb-03-04 11:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Apparently there is a paper trail with these machines. |
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cthrumatrix
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Tue Feb-03-04 11:11 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. good idea ...recount...and have the media eat crow if it's wrong...and |
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loudsue
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Tue Feb-03-04 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. What should we do? Who can request a recount??? |
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Eloriel
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Wed Feb-04-04 12:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. We have to get the campaign to request recounts, probably |
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Andy_Stephenson
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Wed Feb-04-04 01:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I tried to talk to the Dean Camp when they were in town... |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 07:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
55. by the way, nonplussed means "perplexed" or "bewildered" |
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Andy_Stephenson
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #55 |
99. Thanks |
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John_H
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Wed Feb-04-04 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
14. That's because those Diebold bastards gave Kerry all Clark's votes!! |
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Andy_Stephenson
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Wed Feb-04-04 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
15. Yes...New Hampshire was using |
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Adenoid_Hynkel
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Wed Feb-04-04 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
17. troubling |
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bigtree
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Wed Feb-04-04 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
18. I've haven't heard the Kerry supporters question ballots |
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HawkerHurricane
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Scott Adams |
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progressivebydesign
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Wed Feb-04-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Okay, if Kerry gets the nomination... |
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redqueen
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Wed Feb-04-04 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
20. This needs to be recounted |
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G_j
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Wed Feb-04-04 11:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. yes |
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Straight Shooter
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Wed Feb-04-04 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
22. Accept this now and we have no defense or legit argument in November |
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republicansareevil
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Wed Feb-04-04 12:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. You nailed it, Straight Shooter! |
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progressivebydesign
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Wed Feb-04-04 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
24. Non-Dean, but Anti-Bush voters take note!!! |
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Fleshdancer
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Wed Feb-04-04 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
26. they're talking about this now on ie America Radio Network right now |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. this will help Dean |
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loudsue
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Wed Feb-04-04 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
28. Can someone post links to all the candidate blogs?? |
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Karmadillo
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Wed Feb-04-04 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
30. Interesting. A couple of questions (absentee ballots, pre-election polls) |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 02:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. conspiracy theories don't need facts |
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Straight Shooter
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Wed Feb-04-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Right. And Florida was row row row your boat gently down the stream |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 02:38 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I can't defeat a solipsist argument |
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Trajan
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Methinks that perhaps ... |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. it's "solipsistic" |
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Trajan
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Wed Feb-04-04 08:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
66. 'deluded' .. |
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TexasSissy
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Wed Feb-04-04 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
32. You got a VALID link for this? Livejournal is not valid. CNN? |
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BurtWorm
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Wed Feb-04-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. How is FOX more valid than Livejournal? |
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Trajan
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. This issue is not necessarily about Dean ... |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 04:00 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. it's about fear of the unknown |
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BurtWorm
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Wed Feb-04-04 05:34 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I'm not clear on what you have against checking the work of the |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. isn't Gore a counterexample to BBV? |
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BurtWorm
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Wed Feb-04-04 07:20 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. BBV and human error are two sides of the same coin. |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I agree 100% |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:13 AM Response to Reply #59 |
79. Repeat: NH can be checked. |
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creativelcro
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Thu Feb-05-04 09:27 AM Response to Reply #79 |
87. And, by the way: |
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Trajan
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Wed Feb-04-04 08:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Machines are the tools ... |
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foo_bar
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Thu Feb-05-04 12:52 AM Response to Reply #65 |
73. words are the tools |
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Trajan
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:10 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Not the point ... |
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SharonAnn
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:18 AM Response to Reply #50 |
75. Aahh, but corrupt computers are more effective than corrupt |
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creativelcro
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Wed Feb-04-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. Here is the link. What FOX ? I give you the actual data. |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 07:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. reprise |
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BurtWorm
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Wed Feb-04-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. re-reprise: hypotheses about voter demographics |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. that's my point |
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BurtWorm
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Wed Feb-04-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Re-re-reprise: Not talking about a recount. |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 08:25 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. what's the New Hampshire connection? |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:04 AM Response to Reply #64 |
78. 3) It's not about Dean, it's about electoral integrity. |
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On the Road
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Wed Feb-04-04 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
34. There is a High Correlation |
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aquanut
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Wed Feb-04-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Voter temperament |
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NewYorkerfromMass
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. You and ribofunk have excellent, reasonable responses |
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BurtWorm
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I guess you all lost the tinfoil hats the DNC passed around in Nov. 2000. |
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Straight Shooter
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Wed Feb-04-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I guess that proves the "little guy" prefers Dean, the "rich" prefer Kerry |
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5by5
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:19 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Lies, damn lies and statistics |
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milkyway
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
40. I HAVE LINKS TO DATA... |
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foo_bar
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. the numbers aren't really the problem |
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OutlawCorporatePolls
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
42. good stuff here. |
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Nicholas_J
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
47. Exit polls are not even given any real credence for accuracy |
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abcdan
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Wed Feb-04-04 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
49. Geography explains the breakdown |
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Lorien
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Wed Feb-04-04 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
61. Unless the candidates make a serious issue |
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KoKo
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Wed Feb-04-04 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
62. If this isn't looked into NOW..then when. But, Dean is boxed in..if he |
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Dookus
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Wed Feb-04-04 09:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. Why should ANYONE question the results? |
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creativelcro
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Wed Feb-04-04 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
68. If you believe factor X explains the pattern, then do an analysis |
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Reality Bytes
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:45 AM Response to Reply #68 |
76. Analysis here |
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Dookus
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:53 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. A thousand thanks, Reality |
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creativelcro
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Thu Feb-05-04 09:17 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. That is not an analysis. It's a picture. |
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stickdog
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Wed Feb-04-04 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
69. Vote fraud is real. |
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theboss
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Wed Feb-04-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Look at a bloody map!!! |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:22 AM Response to Reply #70 |
80. You could very well be right. What if you're wrong |
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cthrumatrix
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:33 AM Response to Reply #80 |
82. what if there was fraud...and the vote count was closer...then what? |
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creativelcro
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Thu Feb-05-04 09:24 AM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Right. The point is that the correlation is there. |
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theboss
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:14 AM Response to Reply #80 |
89. Your only proof is that Dean lost . . . |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:17 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Do you need "proof" to check that the vote counting system works? |
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theboss
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:28 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Then frame it in that context |
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creativelcro
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:35 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. obviously, the candidate who "lost" is the one who is |
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PassingFair
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Wed Feb-04-04 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
71. Huge |
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Dookus
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Thu Feb-05-04 12:47 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Huge? |
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creativelcro
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Thu Feb-05-04 09:22 AM Response to Reply #72 |
85. Still have not seen numbers explaining the pattern... |
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Norquist Nemesis
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Thu Feb-05-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #72 |
98. Let's fast forward with your position |
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Cheswick2.0
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
81. Kick |
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populistmom
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Thu Feb-05-04 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
83. I was just going to post this link |
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LizW
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
88. Okay, forget about fraud and forget about Dean |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:24 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. This is an issue that all Democrats should be getting behind. |
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theboss
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:29 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Then make that your issue |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. The numbers in NH make me uncomfortable. But this is bigger |
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theboss
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:52 AM Response to Reply #94 |
97. There is nothing wrong with the numbers in NH |
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LizW
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Thu Feb-05-04 10:43 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. It IS the freakin' issue |
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