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Toronto Ron Donating Member (429 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:34 PM
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Clark supporter asks Dean & Kucinich supporters:
When is it time to unite behind the candidate with the best chance who did not vote for IWR, Patriot Act, Tax Giveaway to the Wealthy, No Child Left Behind?
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:36 PM
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1. After the convention
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 01:42 PM by no name no slogan
And btw, it's not only those issues you mentioned above (although Clark has some issues with IWR, and would continue the Iraq occupation indefinately).

It's also about:

* Getting out of IRAQ ASAP
* Cutting the bloated military budget, and spending the funds on a REAL national security plan,
* NAFTA (and CAFTA) and the WTO
* Universal, single-payer healthcare
* A full-employment economy
* a free public education, K-college, for all who want it
* rebuiling this country's crumbling infrastructure

NOBODY else is addressing these issues right now like DK is-- not Clark, not Kerry, not Dean, not Edwards. Sharpton is, to some extent, but he doesn't have the programs that DK does.

DK raised as much $$ as Clark did in Q4 2003, and regularly draws hundreds (if not thousands) to his appearances-- but you wouldn't know that from the NYT or other media sources, because they REFUSE to cover him.

Clark is a fine candidate, but he's not the one who'll not only beat Bush, but put this country on the road to REAL change. So I'll stick with DK for now, thanks.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:37 PM
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2. It won't be before I vote for Kucinich in the CA primary...
Don't hold your breath till after March 2nd.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:37 PM
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3. right now!
vote Kucinich for President!
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:38 PM
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4. Great question
and one that should be answered by the candidates. I was wondering the same thing last night and it seems to me that at some point (soon) if these distinctions are as important to the candidates as they are to you and me, that they have an obligation to put their egos aside and decide how they can consolidate the grassroots/anti-establishment support.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:38 PM
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5. Enough

First of all I'd be willing to bet that ZERO Kucinich supporters will be jumping ship before the convention (or if he drops out). And I've seen a few Dean supporters jumping ship, but not many.

The time to unite is at the convention.

And sorry, but Gen. Clark cannot claim those credentials (didn't vote for x, y, or z) when he could not possibly have voted for them. You'll have to do much better than that, I think.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:40 PM
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6. My own opinion
People should be left to decide these things for themselves. They don't need coaxing or coaching from us.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:41 PM
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7. I will never unite behind a cannidate who supports american imperalism via
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 01:42 PM by corporatewhore
free trade and the school of accomplished assasins who"enforce" it and supported the continued bombing of vieques
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:41 PM
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8. Hey, you're welcome to become a "Kucitizen" anytime you want!
Since, of course, Dennis was the only one of those three (Kucinich, Clark, Dean) who actually had to cast a vote on all of those issues!

Additionally, Dennis was the one who led the effort to get well over half of all House Democrats to vote against the IWR! I don't remember Dean or Clark pulling something like that off.

Oh... I get it now. You're saying that those of us who support Dean or Kucinich should abandon OUR candidate and support YOURS.

No thanks. I think I'll stay right where I am -- with the TRUE trailblazer in the race, and the only candidate willing to really change things. I'll stay with the candidate who has denounced DU weapons, and proposes cutting the Pentagon budget by significant amounts. I'll stay with the candidate who truly envisions America taking a role of cooperation with the rest of the world rather than returning to the days of soft multilateralism and realpolitik that got us into our current mess in the first place.

Of course, you're welcome to come join us in the Kucinich camp anytime you want! :D
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:42 PM
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9. When your candidiate endorses that person -nt-
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:42 PM
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10. I am with DK
until the convention, and after for that matter (the movement!). I will support whoever is the nominee but I am not anywhere near ready to go to someone else, not even close.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:47 PM
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11. At the convention
Second ballot for Presidential nominee.
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iowapeacechief Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:58 PM
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15. You are welcome to join us...
...Kucitizens when your guy drops out.

We are going to Boston.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:52 PM
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12. If Kerry or Edwards really bothered me, I'd consider.
Clark is my second choice and all, but Kerry & Edwards don't bother me enough to abandon DK over.

I think Kerry has actually been successful in getting out the antiwar message even though he supported IWR. I have no idea how, but it's sinked in. Not to take ANY credit away from Dean, Clark, & of course Kucinich - plus all the insiders coming forward recently. Opinion about the war is definately shifting, so IWR really doesn't matter anymore. We can still hang Bush on that damn war.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:53 PM
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13. Can you at least wait until Clark has more delgates than Dean?
It's a little silly to imply that Dean should drop out when he currently has more delegates.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 01:54 PM
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14. After the convention
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:01 PM
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16. That's all three of them! Which one to unite behind?
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Mairead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-04-04 02:05 PM
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17. Goodness--you make it sound as though he had a choice in the matter!
Edited on Wed Feb-04-04 02:05 PM by Mairead
:) They don't let people who have no political office vote on those issues. So his opposition is at most asserted and not at all proven. That makes a difference. Or should.
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