Anybody catch William F. Buckley on CBS News?

[Zorro]

He essentially said Bush has been a disaster (but in a polite way), having abandoned traditional conservative values. Also said Congress is guilty of dereliction of duty by enabling Bushivik policies.

But boy did he not look good. He reminded me of Jabba the Hut.

[BillZBubb]

1. The conservatives all now claim Bush isn't a conservative.

We cannot let them get away with it. Bush is the most consevative president ever--that's why he's the worst president ever.

Conservative policies DON'T WORK. They cannot govern. They will destroy the country.

[kenny blankenship]

6. Yeah, funny how they do that. W is the end stage of their hideous disease

They all have it, some of them are still in denial.

[AspenRose]

9. People who hate government shouldn't govern.

eom

[Cosmocat]

15. YEP ...

Go back 5 years ago ... In all their glorious arrogance they ALL, to a MAN, were just going on and on about how Bush was such a great guy who was going to do so much good with the conservative agenda ...

As noted, with the last 5 years having been the conservative's ultimate wet dream, FULL control of the government, they have screwed things up BIG time, and all they are left with this this arrogant, but Bush isn't REALLY a conservative nonsense ... Where were all these GREAT conservatives in Congress the last 5 years - bending over and doing Bushco's every bidding ... ONLY one conclusion to that ... Conservatives are TOTALLY spineless ...

[Eric J in MN]

20. I agree. The Bush Admin has the same policies as the Reagan Admin,

..and some of the same people.

Massive military spending, cuts to affordable housing.

It's bogus for them to claim that Reagan was a true conservative and Bush isn't.

[ShortnFiery]

2. I'm dating myself, but 20 to 30 years ago, he was not bad looking ...

He must be suffering from some sort of skin disorder. He doesn't look well. :(

[Recursion]

3. I don't know about a skin disorder

I think the guy is just about 150 years old by now or something (OK, I checked his bio, he's 81. But still...).

I miss Firing Line, just like I miss what McLaughlin used to be: I got to hear sincere and well-reasoned arguments from the "other side". I don't seem to see that anymore, anywhere...

[pretzel4gore]

8. still, buckley helped do the groundwork

i knew that one day buckley and pj ororke and buchanon and ..say hugh sidey and kookie roberts and isikoff and woodward/friedman and a whole mess of other bushevik promoters would one day do like seinfeld's kramer when he fukked up bigtime - they'd sidle away from scene anxiously while whistling in pretended nonchalance.... buckley's spirit must be like one of those mentioned in the bible, a bleakness existing inside a 'whited sepulchre'....i recall the time on 'firing line' when he threatened little noam chomsky with a beating! buckley must know he's one of the guiltiest ones of all for turing society over to bush (tom wolfe, of electric cool aid acid test fame etc, is another - those dwarfs made it so cool in regan era to be rich, white and cold blooded greedy pretend intellectuals; they shoulda been run off like hyenas 30 years ago...)
fukkem, let god sortem out

[Frank Cannon]

11. HA HA! I remember the Buckley-Chomsky exchange

If I recall correctly, Buckley threatened to "smash" Chomsky in the "goddamn face".

It was really bizarre.

[pretzel4gore]

14. too bad someone wouldn't post that vid...

Keerist, when i first saw that (Noam was more startled then scared by it, by the naked foolishness of the so called intellectual wfb) i wanted to reach into the tv and teach buckley a lesson!

[Recursion]

16. I know he threatened Vidal

In their debate in 1968:

"Now listen, you queer, stop calling me a crypto-Nazi or I'll sock you in your goddamn face, and you'll stay plastered."

In fairness, Vidal apparently didn't realize Buckley had served in the Army in WWII in Italy and had been shot at by Nazi's, and though Buckley was lying about that.

[kskiska]

10. I liked David Susskind, too.

It was a real discussion panel with people of intelligence, not an idiot shout-fest.

[iconoclastic cat]

4. I met him in '91.

Trust me, he's always looked like that.

[whistle]

5. I thought Wm F Buckley Jr had already been cryogenicized

[Doctor_J]

7. I like his son's writing

Chris is pretty smart, like Dad. Too bad they're both on the Dark Side.

[bklyncowgirl]

12. Imagine if a genie granted your party three wishes...

Control of the White House
Control of House of Representatives
Control of the Senate

...and it turned into a nightmare.

You could almost feel sorrty for them. Almost.

[Doctor_J]

13. What's that old Arab curse?

"May all your wishes be granted"

[gratuitous]

17. Conservatism is the god that cannot fail

No matter what hare-brained conservative policies are enacted; no matter what people with a clear view of the consequences say; no matter that a slow eight-year-old could have foreseen the disaster that Iraq would inevitably become; no, the god of conservatism must not, dare not, simply can not fail! It is always and everywhere the correct course of action, and the only quibble is in its (you should pardon the word) execution. George W. Bush, putting into action every stupid notion conservatives have been beating off to for the last half century, is suddenly not a conservative, because all those stupid notions failed, and failed murderously.

See, all us conservatives are good guys, whines Buckley. We never intended for all those people to die, for the Treasury to be bankrupted. Yes, yes, millions of you predicted it back in 2002 and 2003, and we called you traitors or liberals or worse, but there was no possible way this couldn't have rung in an unprecedented era of peace and freedom unless . . . That's it! George W. Bush must not be a "true" conservative! Whew, that was almost a mistake made in the name of conservatism!

Sorry motherfuckers; you installed him, you gave him the policies, and he carried them out with the best conservative minds of your whole swinish tribe with him every step of the way. Now that even you can discern how fucked up all this is, you want to pretend that you had nothing to do with it. Up against the wall, you fascist pigs.

[Mz Pip]

18. Bet he voted for him

I am having little sympathy for these 11th hour conversions. THese guys knew what they were getting and supported him anyway. Geez, I knew he wasn't a true conservative back in 2000 and I'm not even in their damn party.

Sorry Bill, too little too late. You and your lack of vision cohorts are responsible for this mess. You touted Bush and conservatives followed like sheep to the slaughter.
Fuck you.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[johnfunk]

19. The mummified remains of Bill Buckley speak! And prove 2 things:

1) Conservatives can come to their senses about the real nature of the former Texas governor; and
2) a steady diet of gin and tonics does preserve one's dessicated remains rather robustly...