Hyoptetical: Cynthia McKinney runs for President as a Green

[Smashmouth]

I posted another thread about nader deciding not to run on the green ticket, and in the thread about Dean's sure chances to win, I asked this question. But I think its a factor in any math for this raqce.

Nader attractred the same types of people to his campaigns whenever he ran. I called it a 'fused loop' in the other thread. McKinney, though, will get those Greens plus a lot of 9/11 activists, along with antiwar activists, along with liberals who might not be thrilled with the eventuial Dem candidsate, and most importantly, she could attract a good portion of the African American vote.

Just a hypothetical, but what does 'Cynthia McKinney, Green Candidate for President' do to the math in this race? I'm thinking about the general election of course.

edited to add that she might attract a fair number of women, too.

[blackcat77]

1. If Lieberman or Edwards got the nomination...

...I'd give McKinney some serious consideration.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. I am thinking more what if she gets the nod

for VP on the Democratic ticket

Look the Greens cannot afford to do this in 2004, or they will give
a victory to George Bush, I ain't kidding

[Smashmouth]

3. Theyre going to run someone

They want to be a national party, and that means they have to run someone.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. If they do this in 2004

It will kill them, this is NOT politics as usual

I may also remind you that only ONE party in the history of the
Republic has managed to get the big enchilada on the first try, that was the GOP

Nice try, she runs as a green I will get behind the Democratic Candidate

I wnat bush out, not four more years of bush.

[cryofan]

8. "Another 4 years of Bush must be avoided" is a faulty argument

Dean will be just as bad as Bush. As you can see from his quotes below, he is just about as right wing as bush, and the quote also show that Dean is just as obnoxiously self-assured, arrogant and elitist as bush.

Some people argue that just getting any Dem into the White House will allow us to swing the govt back to the left. Ha! Clinton had 8 years, and all he did was get globalization and neoliberal freemarket policies a huge boost. It helps advance the liberal agenda not at all, if you put a conservative Democrat into office. Clinton is the proof of that!

Now take a look at these disturbing Dean quotes:


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"Throughout the 1990s, Dean’s cuts in state aid to education ($6 million), retirement funds for teachers and state employees ($7 million), health care ($4 million), welfare programs earmarked for the aged, blind and disabled ($2 million), Medicaid benefits ($1.2 million) and more, amounted to roughly $30 million. Dean claimed that the cuts were necessary because the state had no money and was burdened by a $60 million deficit.9
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Most of the Democrats in the legislature rebelled against Dean over the budget cuts, and he ended up depending on Republican votes to pass most of his proposals. At the time, a local Vermont newspaper wrote, "The biggest items on Dean’s agenda for next year are likely to provoke more opposition from the Democrats than the Republicans. Nevertheless, Dean said he feels no particular pressure to deliver the goods to his party or to promote the Democratic agenda."15

In the mid-1990s, Dean even aligned himself with the likes of Republican Newt Gingrich on his stance on cutting Medicare. He opined at the time, "The way to balance the budget is for Congress to cut Social Security, move the retirement age to 70, cut defense, Medicare and veterans pensions, while the states cut everything else."16
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The Rutland Herald described how one protestor, Henrietta Jordan of the Vermont Center for Independent Living, "said it would be much fairer to raise taxes on people with expensive homes and cars, children in private school and a housekeeper at home than to cut programs that helped the 66,000 Vermonters living with disabilities."17 Dean responded callously, brushing off the pleas of Vermont’s most vulnerable by saying, "This seems like sort of the last gasp of the left here."18"
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my comment: I really find the Dean quotes above quite disturbing. The quotes and the article's detailed, footnoted enumeration of his tightfisted reign in Vermont should be engendering serious doubt in the minds of Democrats about his true political leanings.

The rest of this article is here:
http://www.isreview.org/issues/32/dean.shtml

[November 2004]

4. Nader will let us know if he is running

as an Independent in January.

Compound this with a Green Party run.

Neither has a chance.

2004 is too important for this crap.

for me it's Any Democrat, not Anybody But Bush!

[mouse7]

6. I was hoping she'd run for her old house seat as a Dem

Get rid of the DINO that was put into Congress by AIPAC.

[cryofan]

7. She has been demonized by the media over the years

Having been a media junkie for many years, I have read many news items on her over the years that placed her in an unfavorable light, which is a bit surprising, as she is from Grorgia, and I am from Texas, so this would be national news. I had always thought that a bit strange, as the major media avoids placing black leaders in an unfavorble light. For years, I figured she was some kind of unethical loose cannon. Not too long ago, however, I discovered she is basically a socialist. That explains why she made it into the national news in news items that portrayed her unfavorably.

Would I vote for her? Depends on who gets the Demo nomination. I would not vote for her if Clark, Kucinich or Sharpton gets the nomination. If Dean gets it, I may have to.

As far as getting lefty politicians into office, I think black politicians offer us a great way to do that, as it is harder for the major media to demonize them. But how do you get the money to bribe the media columnists, pundits and talking heads, as Dean has obviously already done?

[DLCfromGA]

9. As a Dem that worked to defeat McKinney in the primaries...

McKinney is exactly what the Democrats and the country DO NOT need...

[cryofan]

11. please elaborate, Dear DLC n/t

[davidinalameda]

10. maybe if every last Democrat was killed by a comet

I'd consider voting for her but then again, I could always write in my cat

[billbuckhead]

12. If Dean is the nominee then I would vote for McKinney

I think a Dean nomination will be a golden age for third parties.

[John_H]

13. My christmas gift to the GP: A great slogan :

.04 in 04!