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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:41 PM Original message |
Kerry is a Risky Choice, But the "No Deals" Guy is Progressives Best Hope |
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IrateCitizen
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Am I the only progressive tired of these threads??? |
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Mairead
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. No, but they're potentially important. |
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library_max
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Backatcha |
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IrateCitizen
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. I don't see people "tearing down" the Democratic Party |
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library_max
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Okay, thought experiment. |
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IrateCitizen
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. library_max, please review my numerous posts on this subject |
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library_max
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Good for you. |
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Terwilliger
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Sun Feb-08-04 11:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. no, because Kucinich is the only one I'll vote for |
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bread_and_roses
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Sun Feb-08-04 01:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
61. I too fear this scenario |
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Nicholas_J
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Sun Feb-08-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #43 |
75. Kerry wrote |
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Raya
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Tue Feb-10-04 08:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
80. Take a chance on the man. OK |
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WiseMen
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Fri Feb-06-04 10:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
49. Good point. I think |
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Iverson
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. not by a longshot |
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Carolina
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Sun Feb-08-04 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. no, I hear ya |
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Nicholas_J
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Sun Feb-08-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
73. Yup, the public knows |
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Sensitivity
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Thu Feb-12-04 03:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
85. Just went to kerry web site. Not bad. Got to be open minded. |
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library_max
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Thu Feb-12-04 12:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Good for you - especially the "open minded" part. /nt |
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quinnox
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
2. Kerry is risky, but it is time for a true liberal |
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WiseMen
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Tue Feb-10-04 09:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
83. Judy on CNN just called Kerry "Liberal, by any definition of the word" |
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wabeewoman
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
3. Least obligated of any candidate... |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. That "special interest "story was bogus. That has been proven. Next? |
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wabeewoman
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Evidence please |
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library_max
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. See post #9. /nt |
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Snivi Yllom
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
38. see my post #36 below |
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flpoljunkie
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. You might want to read this earlier post re JK and "special interests" |
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WiseMen
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. Who is Kerry Obligated to. Unions? Gore? Clinton? DLC? Wall-Street? |
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corporatewhore
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. NO HE AINT PROGRESSIVE |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Wellstone was part of group encouraging Kerry to run in the past. |
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corporatewhore
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I dont care about wellstone or kennedy what i care about it that kerry |
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adamrsilva
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
47. Wellstone and Kennedy voted against the war |
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WiseMen
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Sun Feb-08-04 10:19 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Give the guy a break. He is our candidate. |
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Iverson
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. details, details (n/t) |
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library_max
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Details are exactly what we didn't get from post #4. |
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corporatewhore
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. Kucinich didnt vote to shred our civil liberties |
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IrateCitizen
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:32 PM Original message |
His vote on Fast Track is a fact |
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RichM
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. Oh sure.Let's pretend an opportunistic pandering sellout is "progressive." |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Progressive Groups Have Denounced WP "Special Interest" Spin as Bogus |
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Snivi Yllom
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. oh yeah? |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. So What. Individual donors have to work for some company. Unless self-empl |
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Sensitivity
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. As It Says "OpenSecret" nothing to hide if it is BAU |
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WiseMen
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Tue Feb-10-04 11:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
84. Kerry just addresses this in detail on HardBall |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Know a couple guys who felt that way. Now they love kerry |
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corporatewhore
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Thu Feb-05-04 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. I quoth Raw Deal Kerry |
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no name no slogan
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. "Seperate but Equal" |
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mvd
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
13. Good point! |
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ibegurpard
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
16. The "No-Deals Guy?" |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Kerry has a 30-year reputation for that style. Wellstone was strong backer |
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corporatewhore
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:14 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I call him the Raw Deal |
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Snivi Yllom
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
22. this is a joke right? |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Kerry was on PROGRESSIVE SIDE of this argument. The Repubs against it |
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Snivi Yllom
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. What is the progressive side of this? |
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YouMustBeKiddingMe
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
23. Edited for stupidity |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. You are right. Kerry is "PROGRESSIVES BEST HOPE" |
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library_max
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I think you misread the original post. |
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YouMustBeKiddingMe
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Whoops! I will read it again. My apologies. |
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corporatewhore
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
27. Kerry the environmentalist meme has been disproved |
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library_max
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The League of Conservation Voters has given him a 97% rating. |
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WiseMen
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Mon Feb-09-04 04:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
79. Hope it does. |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. How, by Robert Kennedy Jr. and LCV support? Have you read the LVC |
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corporatewhore
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. did you even read it |
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Raya
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Thu Feb-05-04 02:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Link to Kerry Endorsement on Home Page of LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS |
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WiseMen
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
42. Great Post. Kerry as President opens up a world of possibilities |
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IrateCitizen
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. What post is next for the pro-pro-pro-Kerry crowd? |
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WiseMen
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Good Ideas. Thanks. |
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library_max
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Fri Feb-06-04 06:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Oh come now. |
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NV1962
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Sun Feb-08-04 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
54. Him, "progressive"? Pah, on behalf of Kucinich I take humbrage... |
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WiseMen
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Sun Feb-08-04 12:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Kucinich's Lifetime Progressive Record Compares Poorly w/ Kerry's: Facts |
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corporatewhore
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Sun Feb-08-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. see post 64 and see how it comes down to one issue |
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library_max
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Tue Feb-10-04 08:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
81. Well, saying so doesn't make it so. |
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charlie
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Sun Feb-08-04 03:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
71. I'm looking at the numbers |
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Terwilliger
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Sun Feb-08-04 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. There are few progressives in the Democratic party |
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WiseMen
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Sun Feb-08-04 01:00 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Good Point. I guess thats why Kerry can't get a bigger following here. |
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Terwilliger
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Sun Feb-08-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. he's not progressive at all |
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Raya
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Sun Feb-08-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Tell the Major Progressive Lobby Groups. ADA: Kerry 93%; LCV: 96% |
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Terwilliger
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Sun Feb-08-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. ADA...the Democratic Party arm that determines everything Democrat |
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quaker bill
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Sun Feb-08-04 02:00 PM Original message |
These folks don't even understand the word liberal |
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Sun Feb-08-04 02:00 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. There folks don't even understand the word liberal |
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corporatewhore
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Sun Feb-08-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. oh kerry is a liberal allright.....A NEO LIBERAL to call him proggressive |
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corporatewhore
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Sun Feb-08-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. yep thats why he voted for |
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corporatewhore
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Sun Feb-08-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. once again you tout his environmental credentials when he voted |
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Sun Feb-08-04 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
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Raya
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Sun Feb-08-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. I am proud that Kerry Folk don't play such dishonest games. |
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corporatewhore
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Sun Feb-08-04 03:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. do you mean by airing a valid concern? |
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Raya
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Sun Feb-08-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Using innuendo, implication and speculation to slime another dem |
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corporatewhore
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Sun Feb-08-04 03:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. oh come on kerry folk have done that too everybody does |
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library_max
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Tue Feb-10-04 08:31 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. My goodness, that was an astonishing admission. |
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Sun Feb-08-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Just a bit |
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Sun Feb-08-04 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
78. Too Risky. But Too Late, I guess. What happens when RNC exposes JK record |
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