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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:38 PM Original message |
We Must Elect Delegates that Will Put a Pro-Marriage Plank in Platform: |
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Cuban_Liberal
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Marriage has EVERYTHING to do with civil rights. |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
82. and you would not be alone, either |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
100. I'm straight, and I agree 100% to reply #1! |
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DenverDem
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. Civil rights issue, not a religious issue. |
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GiovanniC
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. Your Characterization |
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aquart
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. The Democratic party doesn't write discrimination into its platform. |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. The Simple Fact is: |
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Cuban_Liberal
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Tax me more cheaply, then. |
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soleft
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. hopefully you'll never get elected |
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IndianaGreen
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. If marriage is a religious institution, who instituted it? Jesus? |
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BL_Zebub
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
92. Actually, he would have made himself one |
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youngred
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #92 |
110. wrong, they were married |
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youngred
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
108. Jesus never spoke on homosexuality |
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GiovanniC
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. "we firmly believe..." |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
122. should Bob Jones' church not have to pay benefits to interracial couples? |
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DuctapeFatwa
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
5. What other groups should the Constitution declare as second class? |
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. Women, I suppose. |
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markus
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. DoM 2 Act |
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. how about Gays stay home on election day? |
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IndianaGreen
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. Why should my rabbi be prevented from marrying a gay couple? |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #7 |
127. Amen to that. Very wise words, indeed. |
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Iverson
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
8. sheerest sophistry |
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HFishbine
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. Nobody |
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Options Remain
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
10. BZZT - wrong answer next contestant please |
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soleft
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
11. do you support a plank banning straight atheists from marrying? |
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
12. As long as the government codifies into law |
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indigo32
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
13. screw that |
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maddezmom
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. Disagree, we need to insure civil rights for all |
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meatloaf
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
15. You are about to be flamed, but I will try to remain civil. |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Anti-Gay Marriage |
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meatloaf
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. Irregardless of what you want to call it, it is ethical |
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
17. If codifying discrimination is winning, then I don't want to win |
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NoPasaran
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:49 PM Original message |
Absolutely not |
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JasonDeter
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
18. Bold stand there young man. I agree. |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Following that line of reasoning |
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JasonDeter
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. First off I could care less if gays get married. I will NEVER effect me |
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HFishbine
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
85. Get back to us |
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OneBlueSky
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #45 |
90. just out of curiosity, how can you be so sure . . . |
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youngred
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
113. never effect you? |
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Duncan Grant
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. JasonDeter, Dean also said... |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:14 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. For some it seems |
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Duncan Grant
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Agreed! |
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JasonDeter
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:25 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. But my point is, to make it a national campaign issue so stupid* |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. If marriage was merely a religious expression |
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YouMustBeKiddingMe
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
20. That's an incredibly stupid idea |
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Terwilliger
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
21. OK fine...marriage is a religious institution |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. How Do Civil Unions: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. That is so wrong! We are making a step in the right direction |
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
27. We need to choose our battles wisely, we cannot win this! |
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IndianaGreen
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Kerry's double-talk is not a rallying cry |
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indigo32
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. right |
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LoZoccolo
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
28. I kind of agree and kind of don't. |
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markus
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
33. What a lot of hooey |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I'm a Democrat |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. So you advocate a system of separate but equal? |
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markus
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
71. I repeat: this is RW propoganda-why are we even having this discussion? |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. The source of my Post is my brain: |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
91. You should read a description of logical fallacies |
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
142. ELIMINATING MARRIAGE??!?! |
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BR_Parkway
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Thu Feb-05-04 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
36. Putting politics ahead of principles is no longer a Puke thing? |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. We don't win this election: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
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adriennel
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
74. "activist judges??" |
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WhoCountsTheVotes
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
41. Gay Rights and Abortion are the only issues Dems won't compromise on |
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IndianaGreen
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. Dems already compromised on both |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. er, well Dem politicians will roll over for *anything* |
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NewYorkerfromMass
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
42. Interesting idea |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:06 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I always thought "separate but equal" |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
46. Abortion is a controversiol issue too lets have anti roe plank in platform |
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Cuban_Liberal
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
48. Let's put a plank in supporting repeal of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amend's |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
53. I am sure the DEM party will embrace your cowardly advice. |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. I think I've made my point, but here is the closing argument: |
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Cuban_Liberal
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Your point: |
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jonnyblitz
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. yeah. |
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ulysses
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. closing argument? In post #56? |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
54. Maybe we can win back the Dixiecrats |
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ulysses
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
58. **readies the marinade** |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Well what can the church do: |
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Cuban_Liberal
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Quit providing health-care. |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Yea so more people: |
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ulysses
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. such concern over second-class citizens! |
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Cuban_Liberal
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. We should also stick to not institutionalizing bigotry. n/t |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:35 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. you know many gay janitors who want to clean restrictive churches? |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Churches Must Remain Tax-free: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. no. |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. By Saying: |
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ulysses
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. it already does |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:54 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. No it doesn't: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. Religious organizations are tax exempt |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. Atheists forming a religious organization? |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
104. ? |
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Cuban_Liberal
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Churches must obey the law of the land. |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:55 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. Discrimination against a class of employees |
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markus
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. Yes, actually, they do |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:18 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. I never said that: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #102 |
112. and that poster agrees with you |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
59. No, thank you. n/t |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:32 PM Original message |
No. |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
62. only if you want to lose liberal votes |
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markus
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
76. First, this is inflammatory flame bait that should be locked |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. This is a legitimate issue: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:57 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. Who in the party is advocating Forced Gay Marriage in Churches? |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. It wouldn't matter if anyone advocated it. Govt cannot force churches |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. But what about the effects of Civil Marriages: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:17 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. No, it's forcing them to obey the law. |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:27 PM Response to Reply #101 |
114. A law that forces: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:30 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. ... |
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Padraig18
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:33 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. What if they don't believe in smoke detectors, or sprinkler systems? |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:36 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Some are: |
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Padraig18
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:38 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. I happen to live in Illinois' Amish country. |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:36 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. Just what values are you speaking of when you say |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:42 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Gay "Marriage" |
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Padraig18
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:43 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Churches must obey the laws of the US and the State |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:46 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. And my point is: |
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Padraig18
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #126 |
130. It doesn't interfere with their practice of religion. |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. Still sticking to the straw man, I see |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
131. Religion and discrimination |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. GOP debate tactics 101 |
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Thu Feb-05-04 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
84. Don't like gay marriages? Then DON'T HAVE ONE! (nt) |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:00 PM Response to Reply #84 |
89. haha don't like gay marriage part 2 |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
88. Actually, marriage is rooted in property rights. Men, not women, |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
95. My head just exploded! |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:11 PM Response to Reply #95 |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:14 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I'm probably not voting for Kerry: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
103. FUCK THAT SHIT!!! BACK AWAY FROM MY CIVIL RIGHTS |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. I'm not saying back down: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
105. No, we don't |
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Sandpiper
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
106. The Straw Man Fallacy |
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JVS
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
107. Yes, retreat on all fronts is clearly the path to victory! |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. So it would seem |
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CO Liberal
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
116. You Are WRONG!!!! |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
121. Religious marraige and civil marraige are two different institutions |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:45 PM Response to Reply #121 |
125. My critcism: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 05:49 PM Response to Reply #125 |
129. many churches teach against many things. |
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:11 PM Response to Reply #125 |
138. So, they can legally reject contractors that: |
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blondeatlast
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:02 PM Response to Original message |
132. Churches must give employment benefits to the divorced, atheists, |
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
133. What a terrible and wrong idea |
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:04 PM Response to Original message |
134. You are so wrong it's amazingly sad |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:08 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. I never said anything about an amendment: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
135. how's this for a pro-marriage plank? |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:09 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. It's good, |
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:22 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. let them hammer. |
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mdguss
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:27 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. But then we let them: |
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Thu Feb-05-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. not if we make the point effectively. |
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Thu Feb-05-04 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
143. Locking....... |
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