Two-fold question to non-Dean supporters

[UrbScotty]

Poll question: Two-fold question to non-Dean supporters

Which of the following candidates do you support, and do you think Dean is electable?

[JohnKleeb]

1. DK supporter and he is electable

[MIScott87]

2. ANYBODY is electable.

Just look at the GOP candidate.

[billbuckhead]

3. I'm anybody but Dean, he's not a real Dem

NRA, Confederate flag, Cato institute, 10% of Vermonters voted to the left of Dean in the last election.

[UrbScotty]

4. Well, at least he didn't attend any GOP dinners.

Nor did he support the Iraq war.

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[Hoppin_Mad]

9. Did Clark support the GOP ?

"And I'm very glad we've got the great team in office, men like Colin Powell, Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice... people I know very well... our president George W. Bush. We need them there."

Wes Clark, May 11, 2001

[windansea]

11. thats all you got??

change the subject when Dean's hipocrisy is exposed??

that won't fly in a GE

[billbuckhead]

13. The NRA and Cato are actually worse than the Republicans

At least some Republicans are moderates like those who Dean depended on to win his last election. It's the 10% of Vermonters who voted to left of Dean in his last election that are the proof of the pudding about Dean.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

8. death penalty nt

[cryofan]

12. why on god's green earth do liberals focus on such minor bogus issues!!???

Those standard litmus test Liberal/Dem issues (NRA, Confederate flag, gay marriages, Cato institute, and death penalty (see other post)) that are trotted out as proof of whether a candidate is a real Democrat or not, are simply BOGUS, ridiculous issues! No offense meant...

The REAL issues for litmus test of Left vs. Right, GOP vs Dem, liberal vs. conservative....is...wait for it....TAXATION...how much and who gets taxed how much. And also how the taxes are spent, i.e., on military and corporate welfare, as opposed to social spending.

All these other bogus minor issues are the result of very successful propaganda campaigns by the wealthy and corporate lobbies in both the GOP and Demo parties. They have been so successful in completely demolishing the true liberal agenda--the real issues are not even on the screen anymore. Instead Democrats focus on false, canard or minor issues....WTF!?

[ldoolin]

14. You just hit the nail right on the head

Frankly, WHO CARES about the Confederate flag or whether Dean is a member of the Congregational Church?

What makes a liberal a liberal is: Progressive taxation, civil liberties, belief that corporate power needs to be kept in check with strong regulation, belief that government has a legitimate role in funding things like public education and a safety net, and support for organized labor and the interests of the working class and middle class.

[cryofan]

6. exactly! Gore was a poor candidate and a poor speaker/debater

Gore was a rather poor candidate compared to what is available for the Dems in 2004.

We have several candidates who could embarrass Bush BADLY in a debate. Gore had no chance of doing that, and that is a shame, considering that Bush's speaking skills are poor, and he comes off as rather artificial and vacuous, as least as far as I am concerned.

1. Edwards--what an outstanding debater! Extremely persuasive and well spoken in that format. Also tremendous in the meet and greet room.

2. Dean--so confident, poised, and composed, and has a wide range of emotions that he can call up at will. Fast on his feet. Also great in the room.

3. Sharpton--also fast on his feet and can emote at will almost as well as Dean.

4. Kucinich--not as facile and persuasive a debater as some of the others, but of course he really seems to believe in his issues, unlike the others (except Sharpton), and that is his advantage. Not as good in the room as some of the others.

5. Clark--also a fast and agile thinker on his feet. Great presence. His trump card is of course the fact that he could cripple Bush by calling him on his Guard desertion.

All of the above could be elected if we pulled for them and gave them money to bribe the talking heads and the columnnists, and for running TV & radio spots, etc.

But would we want them to be President--that is the question....

[mikehiggins]

17. The GOP candidate was NOT elected, he was the beneficiary of

judicial activism, something the GOP is heartfeltly against, unless it benefits them.

Bush is most certainly electable now, being the incumbent and all.

He will be extremely difficult to beat, something everyone should carry with them into the voting booth on primary day.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

7. DK and Kerry supporter here

Dean is not electable against George W. Bush.

But what do I know, I am pessimistic.

[diamondsoul]

10. Kucinich supporter-

and every last one of them is electable if we make it happen.

[eileen_d]

15. Clark supporter; Dean is electable

Yes, Virginia, we do exist... I don't like Dean but he can beat Bush. I think he will be helped out a lot by Republicans who are alienated by the Bushies -- whether they choose to vote for Dean, or stay home altogether.

[SahaleArm]

16. Same - I hope people are looking beyond the facade and reading...

the policy papers and positions of all the candidates.

[Bucky]

18. I hope so too. But I'm pretty sure they're not

Well, not most of them.

[cryofan]

19. why not look at what they said and did BEFORE the campaign started?

Wouldn't that gove you a better picture of how they might really govern? Did it ever occur to you that a candidate might LIE on a position paper?