ABK=BC'04

[DJcairo]

Can we Dems stop shooting ourselves in the foot already? Lets' circle the wagons and start to take this fight to Bush now, he's weak and we can move in for the kill NOW if we stop romancing about Dean or whoever else.


Please, I beg you.

[NV1962]

1. Don't beg

And: no.

[slinkerwink]

2. NO

[BurtWorm]

3. Premature.

That argument might wash if he actually wins the nomination, but not until then.

[LuminousX]

5. Agreed

[King of New Orleans]

4. Just let it be

There's no kill 9 months before an election anyway.

[EXE619K]

6. Please tell me...YOU GOTTA BE JOKING, RIGHT?

:D

[indigo32]

7. I've said many times that I'll support the nominee

BUT NOT UNTIL THEN. So ya'll can just QUIT ASKING. Between the rally to Kerry threads and the ABB loyalty oaths threads I'm gonna puke...
and I'm vehemently ABB... so how do ya'll think the folks who aren't feel?

[regnaD kciN]

34. Isn't it funny...

...how the same people who, a month ago, were denouncing then-front-runner Dean as unelectable, warning how choosing him as nominee would lead to disaster, and generally turning this board into a 24/7 Dean-bash are now uttering pious words about "party unity" and how not immediately setting aside our differences and uniting behind the current front-runner will only help Bush?

:crazy:

[Capn Sunshine]

54. That IS funny

people here sure are FUNNY.

[Lobo_13]

8. How about we don't

and say we did.

After all, it's not OUR fault that your guy is an ineffectual ne'er do well that is just another cog in the disgustingly corrupt DC machinery.

If he can't earn our votes, then it's his fault, not ours.

If Kerry manages to hustle his way to the nomination (because his whole campaign is based on a slick talk hustle, a grift, if you will) then he will have to win the GE without my vote, or the votes of many others here.

Howard Dean gets my vote in November, one way or another.

[Langis]

10. You like Bush that much?

[Lobo_13]

16. Oh, I hate Bush

But I detest Kerry.

[Gadave]

43. Which is the stronger emotion

Detest sounds bad, but hate sounds bad too.

[regnaD kciN]

44. How about this...?

"I fear Bush, but have total contempt for Kerry."

Is that a close enough translation?

[Snivi Yllom]

56. bingo

Passion for one candidate cannot transfer 100% to another candidate.

[MaddogTerp]

45. I'm with Lobo_13

and about Kerry... what about this:

http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040205-115046-4263r.htm

I've said it before, I think Kerry is ... oops, I have to be careful, I had a Kerry post deleted... let's just say, Kerry has *influence* with big corporations and lobbyists. Is that who we want running the country? No, we've got that already.

If you want to change what's wrong in this country, you have to take the opportunity to make a substantive change. Fact is, only Dean and Kuchinich resemble substantive change from the big business interests.

[Langis]

9. I'm with you!

Don't worry about everyone else they will come around.

[MercutioATC]

11. No, but cute attempt

...especially after your other posts tonight. Not a great way to build a coalition...

[Democrats unite]

12. Hell No!

Kerry trying to make me a 2nd class citizen! Them there are fighting words! Democrat or not! :grr:

[Straight Shooter]

13. Will these whippings ever stop?

Jeez. As if the relentless pushing is going to make me move over.

:eyes:

[Hoppin_Mad]

14. You should encourage Kerry to drop out - For the good of America ! -nt-

[Democrats unite]

17. That has got to be one of the best statement this evening!

Thank you. :pals:

[NV1962]

18. Right on!

Heck, I'd even prefer Lieberman (a guy I disagree with on quite a few issues) over an empty and opportunistic suit who's just a tad too eager to clench it this soon.

[tinanator]

15. Nader's fault!

try to remember, it's all Nader's fault!

[Skip Intro]

19. Hate to see you beg, but no

We have to define who the hell we are as a party first. What the hell do we stand for? Something a little deeper than ABB I hope.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

37. "Something a little deeper than ABB I hope."

Apparently not. The sheeples are being herded quite nicely, thank you.

[JI7]

20. your posts sure don't help

you didn't even stick with kerry when he was low in polls and went to dean instead and told us to do the same. and now you do the same thing the other way around. do you think these type of posts help in any way ? why don't you just let people vote.

[stromboli]

21. healthy competition

Infighting doesn't really hurt the candidates in the eyes of the voters. (Most of us would probably vote for a wet napkin over Bush anyway.) If anything, it boosts the candidates who handle the pressure and fend off attacks.

[Duder]

22. Without the AB, you have...

K=BC'04

[corporatewhore]

23. What about the conservatives who hate bush for the patriot act?

You guys always tout electability and swing appeal but one big issue for any self respecting Small gov't promoting Big Federal Gov't loathing conservatives is the Patriot Act.I worked hand in hand with them this summer to get an anti patriot act res. here in austin this summer.They are fucking pissed at bush for this. why would they vote for pro patriot act cannidate like kerry

[corporatewhore]

41. No Answer? didnt think so

[FrankBooth]

24. ABB

ABB

[md7389]

63. ABB

I always hear you guys say anybody but Bush, so might i
suggest Newt Gingrich for president?

[RetroLounge]

25. I wouldn't hold my breath...

eom

[David Dunham]

26. Dean is Finished and Will win No States. Time for him to go.

[MercutioATC]

27. Thanks for your input, but we're here to stay. See you at the convention.

:)

[LuminousX]

29. Are you on Dean's payroll? No? Then why should he listen to you?

[NV1962]

31. you must be against incorporation into statehood of DC too huh - n/t

[regnaD kciN]

36. If it's "time for Dean to go"...

...then it's time for me to go, too.

All along, I've been saying that, should Kerry win the nomination, I'd hold my nose and vote for him in November. As I read these screeds from Kerry followers, I'm beginning to waver a bit.

[LosinIt]

38. Excuse Me, I have not had a chance to cast my primary ballot yet

Isn't this still a democracy?

[PVnRT]

40. Yeah, democracy is overrated

Why let anyone else vote? The rest of us are far too stupid, unless we support Kerry! :eyes:

[goobergunch]

57. Nothing In The Future Is Definite. (n/t)

[Donkeyboy75]

59. I've seen Dunham post about six times, and he posts the same

damn message every time. You must be an MSNBC pundit.

[hellhathnofury]

28. NO SURRENDER! NO QUARTER!

A Resounding NO.

:nuke:

[maxr4clark]

30. Even the IDEA of an ABK or ABE or ABC label turns me off, folks!

[juajen]

32. Hey, now, me thinks you're a tad premature.

GO CLARK!

[Atlant]

33. No. (And the bullet wound in my foot wasn't from my gun.) (NT)

[INTELBYTES]

35. Nope!

ABK! It will be a write in candidate for me!

[Name removed]

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[blm]

42. Leave it be, DJ. They're in bunker mentality mode and

it has to run its course.

[edzontar]

46. After months of inexcusable and relentless bashing....

You want us all to "get along" now?


We shall do what is necessary when it is necessary,

As of now, the race is still on, and these "surrender, resistance is futile" threads can only be considerd an affront.

[dansolo]

47. If Kerry is so "electable"

Why are his supporters so concerned about our votes? There are more than enough Republicans who will be voting for Kerry, right?

[corporatewhore]

48. not the conservatives who hate bush over the patriot act anyway

This is the one defining issue we can use to get some swing votes without compromising i mean i a hardcore leftist worked handin hand with them to get an anti patriot act resolution and they are fucking pissed because of it if we were smart we wwould capitalize on this but what do we do we push the only two propatriot act cannidates to the for front because of there so called electability and swing appeal drives me fucking insane

[absyntheNsugar]

49. I Second that!

We have to back whomever the Dems nominate. Otherwise it's the small cute dog in 04. This is not the year to run a 3rd party campagin, that is unless you're a Republican reading this, in which...by all means please run Ross Perot or John McCain...

[CreekDog]

50. Here's the math on the ABK'ers

Their votes < number of votes lost to get their votes

So, let's go and win this thing.

[corporatewhore]

53. again i ask what about the conservatives who hate bush for the patriot act

No selfrespecting small govt promoting big centralized federal govt loathing conservative can say they like the PATRIOT ACT.This is the one defining issue we can use to get some swing votes without compromising i mean i a hardcore leftist worked handin hand with them to get an anti patriot act resolution here in austin and they are fucking pissed because of it if we were smart we wwould capitalize on this but what do we do we push the only two propatriot act cannidates to the for front because of there so called electability and swing appeal drives me fucking insane

[republicansareevil]

51. I must be dense. I don't get it. ABK=BC'04?

ABK refers to the "Anyone But Kerry" mindset, right? Is "BC" Bill Clinton? What does it mean then? Sorry, it's been a long week. :hangover:

[Atlant]

62. BC = "Bush/Cheney" (NT)

[goobergunch]

52. 2162 Delegates Required (n/t)

[deutsey]

55. Ha.

This is a very (and, I gather, unintentionally) funny post...

[mmonk]

58. I prefer the democratic process

thank you very much.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

60. Nope!

Kerry will get my vote if he's the nominee, as I've said for the last billion loyalty oath threads. Until then, please go away.

[stickdog]

61. JK=BC'04

Deal with it.