Hey Dean supporters

[Mile Hi]

I find this fact amazing

Per Kerry's website Kerry has raised $1.4M from 1/27 to 2/4 That's eight days (about $175,000 per day)

Dean was asking for $700,000 in 7 days and got over $800,000 in ONE day!!!!!

All this money didn't come from a small group of people. Dean has the support out there, but all you hear on the news is Dean can't win and Kerry is unstoppable. Funny there's still about 40 more primaries and the DNC is telling Dean to drop out. In fact they made that statement after only 2 Primaries.

I've looked at the figures from the FEC (reports on campaign contributions) and the only Democrat that comes close to the support Bush has in the amount of contributors, money contributed, etc. is Dean.

I truelly believe that BushCO didn't want to go against Dean. They really wanted to go against Kerry. Here is a few reasons why I think that.

Dean got tons more negative media than Kerry is getting now. Especially from the GOP. Oh sure they have said a few things, but I barely see any of it on the media. In fact it usually dies down after a day. It was reported that just prior to the Iowa caucus Dean was getting about 45% negative ads while Kerry and Edwards were barely getting any. If the front runner gets most of the negative ads, where is all the negative Kerry ads now?
In fact why was the conservative group Growth for America doing a negative ad against Dean in Iowa. If the GOP REALLY wanted Dean to get the nomination so Bush could "easily" beat him why attack Dean. Why not attack Kerry/Edwards/Gephart. Most of the GOP focus was on Dean to get him out of the race. Remember Gillespie "Please nominate Dean, Bush will crush him" Why would they tell us that? Why not build Dean up and beat up on Kerry if they REALLY wanted to face Dean for the easy victory.
The scream that wasn't a scream we are still hearing about that and told that it shows Dean as an angry candidate. Funny that wasn't the impression of the people that were actually at the event. It actually pumped them up. Kerry makes the statement that he doesn't need the South and I only heard about it for a day. Where is all the media bashing Kerry for making a dumb statement. When Dean made a comment on Canadian TV about 3 years ago against the Iowa caucus it was reported over and over for a week. Kerry makes a comment about the South and it's forgotten after a day.

Bushco would rather go against Kerry, because he is a known quantity. He has a very established record and it will be easy to mold the campaign ads against him. Dean was an unkown quantity. They didn't know where to place him. They tried to make him out as a far left liberal, but his record as a fiscal conservative was unshakable. Dean could have brought in disgruntled Republicans with his record of balancing the budget. Dean could get Republican votes, Kerry will not. Remember this nation is split 50-50 you have to get the other side to break ranks.

Here is an acticle that sums it up
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0203-04.htm

This country has shifted to the conservative side and only someone that can appeal to both the Democrats and Republicans will get nominated. Why do you think Bush is doing all these social programs (very un-Republican) to get the swing votes. Remember it took Democrats in DC to get some of Bush's spending bills through congress (Health care, No Child left behind)

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. Justify things however you wish...

The official primaries don't lie. Dean is getting whupped. Those are the only figures that matter, and there is no reason to believe it's going to get better.

[BurtWorm]

17. The official primaries do not lie. I thought we were friends.

I was just going to get you a cup of coffee. The official primaries do not lie. I thought we were friends. I was just going to get you a cup of coffee. The official primaries do not lie...

[Ripley]

2. Good post and true.

A lot of people are deluded that Kerry is what Smirky's handlers "fear"...oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh :scared: Kerry strikes fear in the hearts of the guys he voted side by side with. Hah.

Dean's fiscal conservatism will gain a hell of a lot more middle of the road types than Kerry's Vietnam record.

Welcome to DU. :toast:

[demnan]

3. Great post

and welcome to DU! :hi:

I agree with you 100%

[HereSince1628]

4. Its bittersweet, Dean supporters give money, but not votes

The internet campaign was amazing...it reached out, spread out, and tapped hundreds of thousands of people.

Those people are apparently so addicted to the web that they can't get their asses to a polling place.

[CWebster]

5. I don't think they ever hid the fact that he wasn't welcome

by the Democratic establishment either--always searching for the "anti-Dean". Guess they don't want us either.

[mopinko]

6. Why do you think Bush is doing all these social programs

(very un-Republican) to get the swing votes."

you mean proposes them, then cuts them when no one is looking. he is not DOING anything.

i completely agree with your analysis. kerry is a can of tomatoes to them. dean is an animal of a wholly different sort.

so, there is this fundraising miracle, and what are the whores talking about today? "dean is dropping out" even npr- kerry is "going to" get gephardt's nod, dean must win or drop out.
not dean supporters rally. not dean campaign breaks fundraising record.

whores,whores,whores,whores,whores,whores,whores,whores,whores!!!!!

four more years of bush and we'll all be screaming.

[brainshrub]

7. I agree 100%

Don't count Dean out yet! Wisconsin, Washington and Tennessee are coming up.

[SheilaT]

8. The fund raising ability

kind of makes you wonder what's really going on, doesn't it?

And it's not that his supporters on voting for him, just that his supporters are spread out over all fifty states, of which only seven or so have yet held primaries or caucuses.

And don't discount the tremendous media bias against Dean -- don't be fooled by all the He's The Front runner stuff that was out several weeks ago. It was simply a means of setting him up to knock him down.

Meanwhile, Kerry, who mostly raises money from corporate donors, is now the Anointed One, and he's really a case of same old, same old.

A friend went to Kerry's rally here in Kansas City last week, and reported that Kerry actually have the nerve to claim he'd started the greatest grass roots movement ever. Wow!

[Ripley]

11. Did he really say THAT??????? Argggggghhhhhhhhh!

I heard he gave his internet site for college students to vote on a clever new name...windsurfer...wow! That dude is so hip and cool with the youngsters. :puke:

[CWebster]

12. Yeah, I heard him say it on one of the events C-Span covered

Pompous phony.

[bif]

9. I agree 100%

It really pisses me off that the media has written Dean off for dead after Iowa and NH. And they keep bringing up the electibility factor. No one wants to vote for a candidate who's considered a loser. So everyone's jumping on the Kerry bandwagon because the media is pumping him up. Makes me sick. I'm voting Dean in tomorrow's caucuses anyway.

[liberalnurse]

10. I just don't understand why Kerry and his team

discount the power of Dean supporters? The DLC for that matter have reinforced the minimization of grassroots. If dean does not get the nomination, I think that the campaign dirty-tricks will have an impact on vote in 2004. It definately will impact my vote.

The PAC, media and DLC all have "blown-off" Dean....what a real loss.

[Virgil]

15. Nobody knows who Dean is

Dean had no national name recognition like Kerry and Edwards and Gephart and Lieberman. Dean is an unknown quantity where Kerry is the old tried and true. Janet Jackson's boob is getting more coverage than the presidential campaign. The best thing for Bush to do is hold the new television season until October and have all the media start new shows. Wait a minute, the television season will start in October.

Someone has got to bust the media companies up. I do not see why Dean does not go off on the media companies and say we really have a problem. DK does and so do I. It is all but criminal to let the public airwaves fall into the hands of 5 major conglomerates. And then they let Ruppert Murdoch take over Direct TV and half the people in America would not have a clue it happened much less its significance.

[Snivi Yllom]

13. the money is not so important

It's the energy and the passion of the support. Universally Dean's supporters are passionate and would crawl through broken glass for him. From what I have seen the majority of Kerry's support is along the lines of "well, I will vote for him if he is the nominee."

[SheilaT]

14. If a significant number of Dean supporters

actually do transfer all their energy and money-giving potential to the actual nominee, then the Dem will win the election.

I will at best only give my vote to Kerry in the general election if he's the nominee. And I might not even do that. And before everyone jumps all over me, I need to point out that I live in Kansas, which will undoubtedly go for Bush, and what with the electoral college, MY VOTE DOESN'T COUNT. So why bother?

[JNelson6563]

16. that's exactly it Sheila

Kerry is a fool for not courting Dean supporters. The supporters he ahs here, most have been so obnoxious to Dean supporters that they have guaranteed no help and maybe not even votes.

Kerry will get my vote if he's the nominee but that is it. No money, time or effort for the same old establishment stuff. I'd rather devote my energies to affecting great change in politics in my state and local settings.

Dean supporters are highly coveted by the wise. They are feared by the GOP and in Michigan the GOP is about to find out their fear is justified. ;-) Soon after the establishment Dems will also experieince similar realizations. :toast:


Julie

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

18. The "secret" that nobody knows. The "fact" that everyone knows.

Dean has outraised every candidate since New Hampshire.

Dean is imploding.