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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:29 AM
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"No amount of name-calling is going to save them." Howard Dean about GOP
The video is up at Crooks and Liars, and the transcript is up at MSNBC. Keith Olbermann has had two great Dean people on two nights in a row. I just never saw much of the transcript shared from last night.


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/08/31/howard-dean-makes-his-countdown-debut/

DEAN: This time, we‘re not going to lay down and worry about what their supposed toughness on defense. The truth is, the defense issue works for us now. They have a war on terror, they have a war in Iraq, and they have a war on the middle class. They‘ve attacked people‘s—kids‘ ability to go to college, healthcare, wages have gone down. Katrina has been a mess. We‘re in a middle of a civil war in Iraq.

They don‘t know how to deal with anything. They can‘t get anything right, including defending America.
You can‘t trust the Republicans with your money, you can‘t trust them to fix really big natural disasters, you can‘t trust them to defend America.

.....No amount of name-calling is going to save them. The majority of the American people do not believe the President Bush is telling the truth, the majority of the American people do not believe this administration is competent.


And a little more from the transcript. Bush claimed to Brian Williams that we did not start the war. He was wrong.

OLBERMANN: You said the president started this war. We‘ve already heard today from comments from the White House, even comments from the president speaking to Brian Williams in an interview we‘ll be playing in part in a few minutes, that the new terminology, as of tomorrow, is, we, meaning this country, did not start this war, meaning Iraq, plus counterterrorism, again merging these things. Is that going to be...

DEAN: Well, that is simply—well...

OLBERMANN: ... going to be...

DEAN: ... that‘s false. Look at Paul O‘Neill, the former secretary of treasury‘s book, an honest, decent guy, happens to be a Republican—there are honest, decent Republicans—who ran Alcoa Aluminum. He wrote in his book, written by Ron Susskind, he said that George Bush had said he was going to get rid of Saddam Hussein when he got into office in his first cabinet meeting. That was nine months before Iraq.

This administration has simply not told the truth.......What we‘re asking for is to get out of the gutter with this debate. We want real healthcare that works, we want jobs in America that stay in America, and we want a strong, tough, and honest defense policy, where we actually have some allies who respect our country.

We were the most respected country in the world before George Bush took office. And I want to be the most respected country in the world again, before this decade is over. And with a new election and a new way of doing things in a new direction, I think we can do that.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14601135/

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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:36 AM
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1. "I think we can do that."
Better ending "We will do that"
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don954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:38 AM
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2. They lost it when they started calling us Nazi supporters
Goodwin's law applies to politics too...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:46 AM
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3. They pushed things too far, and the people are catching on.
It is going to be a battle, though, every step of the way.

Dean also blasted Rummy on CNN yesterday.

On CNN today Dean said Rumsfeld was an object of ridicule.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 05:03 AM
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4. I am old enough to recall when the WASP ran this country and
I am getting the feeling that this is what is going on once more. Yes we have a few 'others' in top jobs but they are in line with this all powerful money group that are going to run this country as they wish and they do not seem to care if they pull the whole country down with them. It is a odd feeling I get about all this. It is like when we stepped up and voted for Bush we made the culture wars that are on us. Govt. has tanked, army is almost done with, useless wars going on and they even hope to change the constitutions. One bad thing after another. Almost as if they do not understand one has to repair a bridge if you want to keep it in good repair and in use. They do not seem to see the point of a society like ours but only one they run for them self. A lot like the Gilded Age and even if Bush has not moved from that mind set most of us and the world has. Our problem is he has the power. When I say the army is gone I do not mean the weapons. Building weapons at great cost fits into their way of doing things. Men do not count.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:12 PM
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5. I agree.
It is a sell-out to privatization. Only the corporate profits count.

I called Bill Nelson's office today, and as usual I had the feeling that I did not matter. He is so much into appealing to the center that he forget who he is, who we are, and just worries about Republicans.

I was told the other day that he is trying to run a campaign and can't speak up on every issue.

I just shook my head.

I am still angry from my encounter today, and I realize that too many simply do not care at all what we the people think about anything.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:37 PM
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6. Time to vote them out and hope it helps.
The progressive age came in after the Gilded Age so there is hope.We seem to swing back and forth and I think we have gone this way to long.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 12:46 PM
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7. Not bad at all.
If i had to state a minor critique, I would say that Dean should have instead said:

"The majority of the American people believe that most of what President Bush says is lies or propaganda."

Dean did awesome, mine is just a minor quibble over using even tougher language.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:21 PM
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8. I would like tougher language also.
I just figure he got called down before Countdown for his remarks on CNN earlier. Probably told to ease up his rhetoric.

On CNN today Dean said Rumsfeld was an object of ridicule.

I guess he has a lot of bosses right now.
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Marrak Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-01-06 03:31 PM
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9. Kick it! Good focus!
:bounce: :kick:
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