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[ray of light]

http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=23453&catcode=13

Liberals Are All About ''The Big Easy'' and ''The Morning After''
Written by Gabriel Garnica
Saturday, September 02, 2006


As this nation recalls the tragedy of Katrina and the devastation inflicted on “The Big Easy” while the FDA approves use of the “The Morning After” pill, one is moved to realize that “The Big Easy” and “The Morning After” is exactly what liberals are all about.



Easy Does It



If you think about it, the entire liberal social, political, and moral agenda is founded on the principle that whatever makes life easier for everyone is what is right. After all, isn’t it easier to have sex whenever, wherever, and with whomever you wish regardless of the risks and circumstances? Also, who wants to get a teen or child upset by trying to tell that teen or child when to have sex or what to do? Isn’t it easier to just let them do “what comes naturally” and try to regulate the mess? Speaking of doing what comes naturally, why not just legalize everything from prostitution to bestiality and simply regulate the practices?



The entire religion of liberalism is based on finding the easy way to every tough moral situation. This is why liberals become unhinged with the discipline, regulation, and absolute morality of organized religion. Typical religions tell us that the right way is not always the easy way and that being right often means taking the tough road. Its heroes are often those who sacrifice their comfort and benefit for the good of others and society’s moral fabric. Such talk is heresy to the liberal who wants to slide through life making up rules as needed and rationalizing behavior as required.

*** I suggest putting a lot of counter blogs up and making sure people know just how sexually morally decadent Republicans are. I believe there was a statistic that the majority of porn donations went to Republicans. Also, there was more and more information about church pastors and proud Republican supporters who are now on the child molester list. Please post any relevant links.

Oh...and since our wrong-winged-conservative slanderer Gabriel Garnica is so uninformed and will likely trace back to this post, please leave an educational message for her here too.

Have at it!

[Nickster]

1. Wow, what a load of horse puckey. I was trying to find something based in

fact and reasoning....too much to ask I guess. "Neener, neener, Liberals are bad bad bad" Look, I re-wrote her entire article in 7 words!

Let me try some in depth rebuttal:

"Republicans hate the Constitution and look for any way to subvert it rather than do the difficult work of governing"

"Republicans hate any dissent. Why bother listening to dissent? Something in the dissenting opinion might actually make sense, then you'd have to do all that hard work of changing your faith based policy"

"Republicans hate the media. Any attempt to question policy is just negative nay-saying and should be avoided at all costs. Since God dictated the policy, nothing should be questioned."

[lpbk2713]

2. That's somewhere between pathetic and ludicrous.

The article says he's an educator and an attorney. He must have gotten his credentials out of a box of Cracker Jacks.

[Joanne98]

3. Peace isn't easy! Dropping bombs on people from airplanes is!

Conservatives LIARS all.

[knitter4democracy]

4. What about all those liberals who are members of churches?

Most Eastern Orthodox Christians I know are liberals and Dems. You can't get much more of "discipline, regulation, and absolute morality of organized religion" than our church. Yet, somehow, we are still liberal. I think it has something to do with love and mercy, or maybe it's about the Second Greatest Commandment or doing unto the least of these . . .

I'm so tired of that argument that Christians are conservative and liberals hate Christians. Ours is a big tent party, and we're the ones in the midst of a revival. ;)

ETA: I had to e-mail him. After reading more of it, I just got sick of him hiding behind his so-called faith to defend killing innocents.

[knitter4democracy]

7. Here's my e-mail:

Dear Sir:

I found your editorial on the ChronWatch site, and I thought it was interesting. My biggest question, though, is the tired point about liberals and organized religion. My husband and I are Eastern Orthodox Christians, and we're liberals. Almost all the Eastern Orthodox we know are liberals and Democrats as well.

As for an organized religion, you can't get much more of "the discipline, regulation, and absolute morality of organized religion" than in our church. We can't even go out and buy bread for Communion but have an entire ritual of prayer, lighting a candle, and making it by hand. We are to be in constant prayer with the Jesus Prayer and our prayer ropes (similar to the Rosary but with different prayers), which sure seems pretty disciplined to me. We are under the authority of Patriarchs and bishops, and there are many canon laws that regulate our churches and our personal behavior. As for absolute morality, our church, which goes all the way back to Pentecost, says that it is the only way to salvation and that all need to be baptized and to believe the entire Nicene Creed (from before the Catholic Church changed it by adding the Filioque Clause).

Yet, our church permits abortions. Why? It's about mercy. If a woman has the permission of her priest (or spiritual father or mother, who may not be her church's priest), who has gotten permission from the bishop, she is permitted. Greece's bishops allowed abortions when the Turkish armies raped Greek women during their last war, for example. They did because it was about mercy, not about being easy.

We're big on mercy. We constantly pray for mercy throughout our liturgies and the Jesus Prayer ("Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy upon me, a sinner"). Jesus told us to love our neighbor as ourselves, and He also told us that whatever we do unto the least of these, we do to Him. Yes, there are many verses in the Bible about judgement, but Jesus made it clear that judgement is for God alone. He didn't even want to stone the harlot the scribes and Pharisees brought to him, even though they'd caught her in the act of adultery. I find it interesting He never preached on abortion, even though it was allowed under Jewish law at the time until quickening (when the mother can first feel the baby move, anywhere from10-20 weeks). Maybe it's because He didn't want to judge a woman in a hard place but instead show love and mercy. I don't know, but that seems consistant with the Gospels.

It's a tired argument to say that good Christians are Republicans and conservative ones at that. There have been many good Christians who would be horrified at the excesses of the current Republican party. Dorothy Day, a great Catholic who fought for the rights of workers and the least of these; Sr. Dorothy Kazel, one of the four martyred churchwomen in El Salvador, trying to help the poor there in the midst of a civil war; St. Nicholas, a great bishop who gave what he could to make sure a pair of sisters wasn't sold into prostitution to pay their poor father's tax debt; St. Timothy, the Protomartyr, who was stoned not only for preaching the Gospel but also because he was a deacon in the Church, feeding the poor and defending them against the state--all of these and millions more would argue that a Republican Party devoted to getting as much money as possible and helping the rich get amazingly richer while the poor get poorer is not a party for the faithful.

Oh, and almost all liberals I know are against appeasement. I don't know where that talking point came from, but it's wrong. Containment is not the same thing as appeasement, and bombing the innocents of a nation that has never attacked us is not the same thing as forceful defense. How many babies have we bombed, burned, and left orphans, all to feel better after being attacked by an entirely different group of people? Is that what organized religion teaches? Not mine.

Thank you for your time. May you be blessed, here at the beginning of a new church year, and may God have mercy on us all.
K4D

[ray of light]

8. great letter!

[knitter4democracy]

9. Thanks!

Watch, he'll flame me or something. :eyes:

[knitter4democracy]

11. He e-mailed me back.

He was quite courteous in his reply, thankfully, but of course his big question was whether the mother or the baby is more imporant and worthy of mercy. :eyes: Why do they always pull that one? Heck, I don't know, but it sure seems like the whole process of pregnancy and birth is far more complicated than saying the soul arrives at conception and anything done to it is murder.

[annabanana]

13. tell him the soul arrives with the first breath...

the first "aspiration", like "respiration" from the word "spirit".

Then get him to prove you're wrong.

[knitter4democracy]

14. The Pneuma. Good idea!

I already e-mailed him back with my medical jargon and knitting metaphor. I'm not sure it makes sense, but it does to me. :)

See, when David says in the Psalms (and I know it's a translation) that we are "knitted up" in our mothers' wombs, that makes sense to me. I often start a project only to find out that it's just wrong somehow, so I unravel it, re-skein the yarn, and start over or even find a completely different project for that yarn. Sometimes I let it sit in my stash for years before finding the right project for it. Also, when I cast on, it's not a complete project: it can be a long time before it starts looking like it's a sweater or a sock or a hat.

I think babies are like that: just because they were started doesn't mean they're going to be the finished project and make it to birth, and it takes time to make it all come together. Maybe that's what God does: casts on, knits a bit, sees it's not going to work out, works through the mother and her body to make it unravel, and then starts over again later if that yarn is supposed to be knitted up.

Adam wasn't alive until God breathed in his nostrils, though. Maybe the soul really does come on with the first breath.

[FloridaPat]

5. It always comes back to sex with these people. Them putting their

noses in everyone's sex life. What is their problem? And this has been going on for centuries. Amazing how they ignore all the other commandments though.

[angstlessk]

6. Here is a link to a bunch of repuke deviants..there is NONE for Democrats

http://www.armchairsubversive.com/

I love this site...I am not sure how often they update...but it is interesting to say the least!

[ray of light]

10. thanks! that's the one he/she needs to see!

But hey...Republicans aren't sexually out of control...now are they? They're fully in control of their pornographic and pediphillic tendancies.

[mbee]

12. One little problem - These so-called moral and upstanding

conservatives have a big problem regulating anything that would help the poor. Guess Jesus really thought food, jobs, housing, clothing was only for the rich according to their policies.

[knitter4democracy]

15. They usually counter with, "the poor are always with us."

Drives me nuts. I seriously doubt that Jesus's answer to shut up Judas's whining about the harlot anointing his feet with expensive perfume is supposed to be more important than the Second Greatest Commandment: Love your neighbor as yourself.

Oh, and the least of these apparently are to be left out in the cold. I'm really worried about our town for this winter. It's going to be bad--wages have fallen for the poor, jobs are freakin' hard to find, and winter's coming. :shudder: