VERY IMPORTANT info re: the Casey > Santorum Debate Poll that is on here !

[snowbear]

Most of us have seen the debate.

Aside from a handful of noobs and a few wannabe-DU'ers, we know that Santorum had his ass handed to him.

So why do you suppose the lame poll that someone on here shared show Mr. Santorum with such a huge lead?

And why do you suppose that despite our best efforts of "Du'ing" the poll, the results barely budged"?

Why you might ask....

BECAUSE -->>>> The poll that someone placed on here was created by a "free poll creating service" called The International Polling Service.

Anyone can log onto the website and create a poll, and to make it look like it's an actual poll (as someone did to us here), they can cut & paste a photo onto the page.

> http://www.internationalvoting.com/

In the case of the bogus Casey > Santorum poll, in an attempt to make the poll look more legit, the creator of it pasted a photo of Tim Russert on the poll.

Russert has absolutely nothing to do with that poll. My hunch is that a Freeper started it, and it someone made its way over here.

Here's the thing you need to know though... You can create a poll on that site for FREE, and you can go back in and EDIT it to your heart's content!

If you decide to become a paying ("Supreme Member") I'm sure they'll even let you tamper with them more!

We need to remember when we see fishy polls, that is they were created by "http://www.internationalvoting.com/" we should probably avoid them!

Why use a polling service that whoever created the question can just change to the results he wants to see?

Besides... DU allows us to create our own polls here!

If you see another poll by that service - - - - - - BE SKEPTICAL OF THE RESULTS!!!!! They are being heavily tampered with, and I suspect many a freeper paid the extra few bucks to get all the insider tricks on REALLY skewing results..

I'm just saying- - - We're going to see a LOT of polls over the summer, but put that particular one (www.internationalvoting.com) on your major SUSPICIONS list and warn everyone else to go check out their site!

NOW I finanlly know why we never made any headway on that poll! The creator of it just kept changing back the results!

[az chela]

1. it was probably done by one of Rove's buddies

You know how w is always saying he doesnt pay attention to polls???
YAH RIGHT

[snowbear]

2. Yeah, we'll this one affected us and people here need to know this...

That this is now a free polling device that allows you to

> create a poll
> place photos on the poll so that it looks like THAT person is asking
> and have access to the poll to edit the results

Just keep that in mind - A freeper evidently created the first of the Casey/Santorum polls because they were skewing the results all night

Thatz ok though... They'be been BUSTED!

[cornermouse]

3. Thank you.

I wonder if Russert could sue for misuse of his image or something?

[snowbear]

4. I doubt it...

As far as I know, using the images we locate on Google Images are fair game (as far as message boards, etc..) but yeah, if we ever tried to use them for financial gain somehow, I don't think they'd take too kindly to that and we'd probably get tracked down and ask to remove the image..

Just using them on that bogus "create a poll, then tamper with the results" program is ok probably ok though..

[cleveramerican]

5. Santorum is just plain creepy.

ever notice how fake his smile appears.

He deserves to go down in flames and disappear.

[C_U_L8R]

6. His eyebrows are askew

something's damn out of kilter in there...

tripped up in childhood over physiological needs?

[blue neen]

7. Good catch, larissa.

It really was very strange that the poll was not budging much yesterday.

I'm going to see Casey this afternoon at a Labor Day picnic at Northmoreland Park. I want to tell him that his dad would be proud of him!

Thanks! :)

[nicknameless]

8. Thanks for the heads up. AOL polls aren't much different.

Fixed percentages.

[dalaigh lllama]

9. Wow. Thanks for the heads up

That was truly a bizarre poll. k & r to warn other unsuspecting DUers.

[_dynamicdems]

10. I use a free poll that is pretty good.

They can all be freeped by determined people with a little computer knowledge, but this one is better than most in that it checks IP addresses (so deleting cookies alone will not get you another vote) and the person who puts up the poll cannot influence the vote counts.

You can see an example of their polls on my site: http://www.dynamicdems.com/2008_election.htm

Pollhost costs nothing but does come with one obligatory popup. Anyone with a web site or blog might want to check this out.

[DeepModem Mom]

11. Very interesting info, larissa -- thanks for posting!

I'm afraid, however, I posted disappointment with Casey yesterday -- and am not a new or wannabe DUer (at least, I hope not!).

:)

[samsingh]

12. amazing that a picture of russert could give any credibility

to a poll.

[PittLib]

13. From a "noob" (whatever that is) ...

PA is full of moderates, particularly Republican moderates, and this so-called "ass handover" wasn't the interpretation many made. This is a columnist from the Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-smerconish/the-debate-is-over-santo_b_28721.html

Yeah - I know, he is a Republican which automatically equates to "ignorant asshole" around here. I would like to merely point this out because I know plenty of moderates looking for an excuse to bounce Santorum. Come to think of it, I don't know anyone who actually likes Santorum, but Casey has done nothing to capture their vote. Perhaps it would behoove some of you to do a little research on the Casey candidacy, to understand why some Democrats are concerned about this race. Carry on with the happy Casey parade if you will, but just be prepared for disappointment come November unless Casey steps up.

On edit: It's worth mentioning that this article was forwarded to me by an active Casey supporter.