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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:26 PM
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JESUS WEPT
Jesus Wept
By Nancy Greggs

Let’s start with the premise that Christians are people who follow the teachings and example of Jesus Christ. That might seem to be a self-evident definition, but if one looks around at who is purporting to be a Christian these days, one can’t resist scratching their head and saying, “Huh?”

And no one has jumped on the Christian bandwagon faster than the Republicans currently in power, along with their born-again president, who only drop their flag-festooned garb long enough to wrap themselves in the vestments of the crucified Lord – when, of course, it is politically expedient to do either.

Like the old egg and omelet story, it seems the GOP can’t attempt to create a Christian nation without breaking a few commandments – well, ALL of them, if you really want to nit-pick.

We recently heard from Katherine Harris on the topic, who reminded us that the separation of church and state in American democracy is a lie, and that if we don’t elect true Christians to office, those nefarious non-Christians will legislate sin.

I guess Ms. Harris (who apparently deemed it necessary to improve on God’s creativity by availing herself of a new pair of breasts) has been too busy with her flailing campaign to take a look at what our present ‘good Christian’ legislators have been up to.

We have an allegedly devout Christian president who encourages torture, who is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan, and has blatantly lied in order to embroil the country in the conflicts that have caused such casualties.

In addition, we have a Republican-controlled government (fine Christians all, to hear them tell it) that has legislated taking from the poor to give to the wealthy, sending troops into combat without life-saving equipment, denying necessary drugs to sick Americans who can’t afford them, and have gutted every program that aids the poor, the infirm, the homeless, and the hungry.

Now, I do not pretend to be an expert on the topic of Christianity, but I am struggling to understand how any of this fits in with the teachings of Christ. Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve never pictured a modern-day Jesus partying in Arizona while his children drown in New Orleans, and I don’t remember any signing statements being appended to things like loving your fellow man more than you love yourself.

But like I said, maybe it’s just me.

You have to admit that the so-called Christian preachers, who are nestled warmly in the pockets of the GOP, have done more than their earthly share to contribute to the anti-Christianity that is now being passed off as the real deal.

Pat Robertson didn’t let ‘thou shalt not kill’ stand in the way of calling for the murder of an elected leader. And in the aftermath of 9/11, Jerry Falwell was quick to ‘bear false witness’ against his fellow men by putting the blame for the carnage squarely at the feet of the gay community.

Such men, once content to smooth-talk their followers out of their last dime in order to fund their multi-million dollar lifestyles, have now joined their politician partners-in-crime to sway the faithful away from their once fervently held ideas of a loving Christ, and have replaced Him with the Golden Calf of Republican double-speak.

In all of this madness, there is one truth that has been overlooked by those who are now, with such anger and indignation, insisting that a more Christian country should be the aim of every American. The fact is that if America were in the hands of true Christians, the present crop of GOPers would all be out of business.

Real Christians would have demanded Bush’s impeachment the minute he proposed the use of torture, or shrugged off the death of innocent children as ‘collateral damage’. And after his behavior during the Katrina debacle, he would have been driven out of the White House with his head hung in shame.

If our nation were under the control of true Christianity, the elected officials who voted for diminished funding for social programs that aid the poor and the sick could have kissed their political careers goodbye the minute they did so, and those who supported a war that would kill thousands of innocents would have prayed to be raptured just to escape the ire of their constituents. And imagine the drop in revenues for any corporation that dared to pollute God’s most precious gift, the earth itself and the animals that populate it.

I am not a Christian, but I do respect and revere the teachings of Christ. And while I do not support the merger of Church and State, I would be more than happy to see those teachings adopted as a guideline for my government. But that would mean sheltering the homeless, ministering to the sick, respecting all life, not judging others – and you just know the Republicans are never going to go along with anything like that.

The sins of this administration and its party members are many. But one of the most grievous among them is the fact that they have turned what were once God-loving Christians away from their true faith. They have encouraged hatred and intolerance, violence and death, and have done so in the name of He who, through words and example, denounced the very things they now proffer as his Divine Plan.

I understand that the traditional price for betraying Jesus is thirty pieces of silver. Thanks to their lack of conscience and their overwhelming greed, the Republicans have managed to do much better for themselves than that. They have set themselves up like the moneychangers in the Temple, secure in the knowledge that the faithful will continue to be blind to their true intentions.

Maybe they should familiarize themselves with the Bible they pretend to know so well – if they did, they’d know how that story actually turned out.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:32 PM
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1. remember the Spanish Inquistion? Nothing has changed
some people have used the church over the years for their own means. Greed and power.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:44 PM
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2. Here's #2 and a kick
You and Jesus ain't the only ones weeping. :cry:
Once again, you've said it so well.

:kick:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:46 PM
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3. jesus said..........
"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust consumes and where thieves do not break in and steal." (Matthew 6:19-20 RSV)



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quiltguique Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:52 PM
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4. Outstanding rant
I have suffered in near silence and not a little fear at the CRW, which has grown increasingly powerful over the past couple of decades -- 2004 was a watershed year for them and many of us who have been increasingly marginalized. Thank you for articulating the recent time of troubles.
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ktlyon Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:28 PM
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26. welcome friend
glad to hear from you
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 12:59 PM
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31. Hi quiltguique!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:57 PM
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5. W's version of Xianity is like the radical Islamists version of Islam
Anne Coulter expressed the views of W's Christians when she said, and wrote, that we should kill all the Muslim leaders, and then kill any of their followers who won't convert to Xianity.

The GOP simply don't want to hear the Christ of the New Testament who said forgive 7 times 7 and turn the other cheek. Or Do unto others as you would them do unto you.

W's Xtian party is a war machine, nothing else.
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LaCrosseDem Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:22 PM
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25. unfornutely, the vast majority of Christians agree wholeheartedly with Bus
Christians are his base. The right wing has successfully hijacked the church.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:57 PM
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6. ooo ooo ooo
I get to be the fifth recommend!

Great one, Nance...

Though there's hardly anything unusual about that.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 10:59 PM
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7. That's a fine piece of work Nancy. You tell 'em.
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:09 PM
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8. Recommended: #8
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:18 PM
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9. K&R: excellent piece, again! n/t
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:25 PM
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10. If you'll excuse the expression... AMEN!!!!
Can I get an 'Amen', y'all? Can I get an 'Amen'?

Amen!

:woohoo:

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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-04-06 11:26 PM
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11. Excellent
"I am not a Christian, but I do respect and revere the teachings of Christ. And while I do not support the merger of Church and State, I would be more than happy to see those teachings adopted as a guideline for my government. But that would mean sheltering the homeless, ministering to the sick, respecting all life, not judging others – and you just know the Republicans are never going to go along with anything like that."


Well, I am a Christian, and His principles being followed would be nothing construed as being, "religious", because they're loving of the unloved, the hated, the poor, the meek. The principal of understanding Christians rests on the precept that we're all fallible, becoming Christian doesn't make you perfect, but these fraudulent wannabe-Christians keep using His name and then turn right around and seek power & money, I'm ticked off, and you speak truth to power in your comment. Excellent job, Nance, Excellent!
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 12:12 AM
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12. "I love your Christ!"
"I don't reject your Christ. I love your Christ. It's just that so many of you Christians are so unlike your Christ." --Ghandi


Later in his life when he was asked whether he {Ghandi} was a Hindu, he replied:
"Yes I am. I am also a Christian, a Muslim, a Buddhist and a Jew."
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 06:52 AM
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33. That last part is why
his words (((speak))) to me more than any other religious leader of any time period.

Thanks for bringing them to me again this morning.
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Ferret Annica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 01:13 AM
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13. Christianity is disgusting and largely pointless
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 01:19 AM by Ferret Mike
I want nothing to do with it and it's alleged Jesus whom I doubt ever existed.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:12 AM
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14. YOUV'E DONE IT AGAIN!!...outstanding writing
You put my thoughts into words, you are a great communicator!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 03:31 AM
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15. Anytime a GOP Christian starts to talk "war" with me......
I simply state......
"blessed are the Peacemakers, for they shall be called the children of God"
Matthew 5:9 - Sermon on the Mount http://www.bartleby.com/108/40/5.html

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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 06:55 AM
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16. K & R! Nice reminder to those "values" folks what Christianity really
represents. :hi: MKJ
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:33 AM
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17. Another brilliant post!
Eloquent as always.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:49 AM
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18. I'm getting so tired...
of waiting for Jesus to speak for himself.
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:57 AM
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19. A couple quotes from another famous right-winger
"We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out."

"God the Almighty has made our nation. By defending its existence we are defending His work...."

-Adolph Hitler




Liberal bumper stickers


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LaCrosseDem Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:17 AM
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20. this is exactly why I am a FORMER Christian
There is no way I can worship a God who has been co-opted by these right-wing lunatics. The church of Jesus is indeed dead, murdered and replaced by the religious right.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:07 AM
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21. You've spoken for me here as well. Thank you.
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Tigermoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:14 AM
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22. A nation can never be led by real Christians.
While reflecting on the novel 1984, I realized power is the antithesis of love. In the world of 1984, "Power is God." To be elected, to lead a political state, is to be in a position of power that necessitates using others to attain that power in order to fulfill one's desires. And no matter how altruistic those desires are, the necessity of attaining power necessarily prevents one from loving one's neighbor. This power, this "world" as described by Paul, is in direct opposition to humility and loving one's neighbor.

The Bible shows us the evolution of a people as they came to appreciate that God is Love rather than Power. The Old Testament God is a God of Power...a God to be feared and obeyed. The New Testament shows us a God that is Love...a God to be loved and thus obeyed because of that love.

By focusing so much on politics--on the theology of power--we too become corrupt and begin to hate our neighbors rather than loving them. For a world dominated by politics...a world where the individual cannot get outside of the worldview of politics and power...please read 1984. In that world, there is nothing more than power. It doesn't matter which class overcomes the other, because in the end those with the most power will use that power to manipulate and subjugate the lower classes. It is a vicious cycle, the cycle of a boot stomping on the face of humanity.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:51 AM
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23. Unparalleled evisceration of the disingenuous mendacious reichous
hypocrites who say they love and follow Jesus, but support policies and actions diametrically opposed to the teachings of Jesus. Bravo
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 11:48 AM
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24. ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!
"I guess Ms. Harris (who apparently deemed it necessary to improve on God’s creativity by availing herself of a new pair of breasts)...."

Well, God never was any good with those breateseseses.... bosomseseses.... er.. thingies... ya know? A womany kind of thing.... just slap em' together and move .... NEXT!

hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Nancy you're the greatest!!!!! LUV YA!!!!!!!
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 04:50 PM
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27. "Jesus would slap the sh*t out of you"
I almost bought a little refrigerator magnet that said that. Better a bumper sticker-- it's the message I want to give to all phony, warmongering, thieving "Christians".
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:55 PM
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28. if i have a uterine implant
can i have nancy greggs' baby????

this atheist homo says HEAR, HEAR!

two :thumbsup: :thumbsup: to nance.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:04 PM
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29. Damn!!!
Well said. You should submit this as an op-ed to every newspaper in this country!!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:34 PM
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30. Jesus doesn't care. He's got other things on his mind right
now. He's on vacation at the beach.

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emerald45 Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 01:23 AM
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32. HOW DO YOU DO IT?
You always manage to write exactly what I'm thinking!  Thanks
for your voice....:) 
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