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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:21 PM
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I will NEVER tire of asking the ? - why does EVERYONE ignore the anthrax ?
Why, why, why? Why do they all say we have not been hit since 9/11? Why does ALL the news media ignore this inconvenient fact?
People did in fact die. It was, in fact, an act of terrorism - possibly THE SCARIEST ACT OF TERRORISM OF ALL.

No updates, no arrests, no closure. Just this very weird collective amnesia. What reporter where is still covering this? Why do we let the administration get away with it when they assert that there have not been any more attacks on American ground since 9/11?

I want answers! To the non-coverage!
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blue cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:23 PM
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1. probably
because it was some dumb-ass republican trying to get back at the democrats, since only democrats were affected by it.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:29 PM
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6. It wasn't done by just any dumb repuke.......
it was a repuke with access to the refined anthrax used in research labs. Probably someone high up in the Department of Defense handed over the anthrax to one of *'s lickasses for use in scaring the hell out of the ranking Democrats.

And it worked......the Democrats were scared stupid (and voiceless) for several months thereafter!
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:57 PM
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18. "several months"?
How about YEARS?????? Only a few of them speak, even now.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:43 AM
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48. And when they do speak, they're vilified as loonies.
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 06:16 PM
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53. This poll might explain corporate media's mass amnesia.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:23 PM
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2. yes! what happened to all the leads?
I want to know -- even if the answer is scarier than the 9/11 attacks.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:23 PM
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3. kick
:kick:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:26 PM
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4. it doesn't fit the propaganda agenda
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 07:27 PM by proud patriot
just like those white "christan" folks caught amassing weapons to
terrorize Americans with weren't all over the news .

Didn't fit in the agenda of manipulating the American people
into a fascist police state.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:31 PM
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8. I think the same ones are responsible for the Anthrax...
that are responsible for the 911 attacks! The PNAC cabal!
After all, we now Know that the Anthrax came from a U.S. Army facility in Va.
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:29 PM
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5. seems obvious it was a black op by our government
mailed to dems and the media, to foment support for the Patriot Act, which was promptly jammed down our throats.

Investigation's DNA analysis found it was the Ames strain from a US military lab, and the investigation was promptly scuttled.

Then they attempted to pin it on a whistleblower who warned such an attack could happen, in typical Rovian fashion, and they ignore it like it never happened, having served its purpose.

So, to me, the mystery is kinda over. I just hope that one day someone comes forward to shine a light on all that was done by the Bush Cabal.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:41 PM
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58. This rings true to me., too .
It makes the most intrinsic sense when the targets are considered.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:30 PM
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7. I've been told that the anthrax "Doesn't count".
Seriously. Right wingers have told me the anthrax doesn't count because it wasn't sent by "Islamofascists".
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:42 PM
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12. And how would they know who had sent it? nt.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:33 PM
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26. is that like the put options didn't count
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 09:35 PM by MissWaverly
because they were from a red, white and blue American company that could have no possible
link to Bin Laden, so we just didn't ask any more questions?

"The 9/11 Commission tried to show that these suspicions were unfounded. It's most important
claim was that the purchase of put options for United Airlines do not show that anyone other
than Al Quaeda had foreknowledge of the attacks, because 95 per cent of these options were
purchased by a single U.S. based institutional investor with no concievable ties to Al
Quaeda." The 9-11 Commission Report/A 571 page lie by David Ray Griffin, 499 n. 130.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:03 PM
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33. So, who was that investor? nt.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 03:56 PM
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50. do you think the 9-11 Commission would release that info
Maybe they'll know in 50 years.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:32 PM
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9. Its just another example that begs the question - are they all in on "it"
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 08:23 PM by Skip Intro
I posted a thread here last night about what if it were all, at this point, a show, where the essence of the parties and the media simply perform for us in a grand distraction while a larger, hidden agenda is carried out.

This is one more example that hints at something like that. I can't think of another reason, another answer to your questions.

Why else would the media, Democrats, and even real (if there are any left) Republicans never mention these attacks, which were, in some ways, far more frightening to the whole of the American people than the attacks of 9*11?

Note the anthrax attacks came at a time when swift action on measures attacking the freedom of the people was being called for in Congress by the regime. And that the only recipients were Democrats and some in the media. And that an election was all but upon us...

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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:33 PM
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10. 2001 anthrax attacks
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:43 PM
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13. Pass the tinfoil, Mother!
Note that the first batch was postmarked: Sept 18, 2001 -- 1 WEEK AFTER the 9/11 attacks. Anyone elset hinking this means the Anthrax attacks were in the planning stage before 9/11?

:tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat: :tinfoilhat:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:22 PM
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20. Why was the white house already taking Cipro on 9-11
Why did some White House staffers start taking Cipro, a powerful antibiotic used as a treatment against anthrax, on September 11th?
These precautionary measures were taken by the White House a full three weeks before the first evidence of the U.S. anthrax attacks surfaced.
The watchdog group, Judicial Watch, is trying to find out what the White House knew and when.

http://www.computerbytesman.com/anthrax/conspiracy.htm
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bainz Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:41 PM
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11. Did Anyone Claim Responsibility?
Sometimes I wonder if it was the big "T", or something similar to what Joseph Meling (link) pulled when trying to kill off his wife for the insurance money; only this time using the 911 attacks as a cover.

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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:46 PM
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14. order your anthrax fresh from Frederick, Maryland
how much do you want? Free delivery No postage and packing charges.

Seriously, it was a home grown exercise but I think someone grassed on them so they stopped.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:53 AM
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49. what does 'grass on them' mean?
rat them out? i'm a bit slow today.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 06:17 PM
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54. Yes , that what it means
"Grassing up" is English slang for informing. It's abb. of grass in the park which rhymes with nark. A <copper's> nark is an old expression for a police informer.

Oh my - don't life get complicated when slang gets exported. :)
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ocean girl Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:53 PM
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15. Thank you for continuing to bring it up
I knew Bob Stevens, who died while working for American Media, and he was one of the nicest people I've ever met.

When I asked one of his colleagues, who worked with Bob at the time, who he thought mailed the anthrax, he looked straight at me and said: "The government."

Enough said.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:54 PM
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22. That's interesting.
What was Stevens working on that would make the government go after him with anthrax? I mean, how bizarre is that?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:18 PM
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24. PHOTOS. Raw tabloid photos. New and archival. Of politicos.
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:47 PM
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29. And of Whom and doing what pretell?
Some conneticut yankees engaged in vacation tom-foolery?

Yalie chums chumming it up?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:36 AM
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42. Motives could be CYA (suppression ) or Blackmail (possession) and
knowing the BA, it was both.
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ocean girl Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:25 PM
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35. I don't think he was the target
Apparently, he opened the mail randomly because he was part of the photo department. Unless I'm mistaken, it was addressed to Jennifer Lopez or something like that - but not to him personally.

I think American Media was the target. I believe David Pecker, the CEO of American Media, was a large contributor to the Democratic Party.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:33 AM
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41. I still think the photo archives were also a target...
The brazillioons of proofs have been decontaminated but many were "lost" and even more are simply not being returned to their owners (the photographers).
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:12 PM
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34. Was he the photographer that took the pictures
of the bush twins sprawled on the floor drunk?
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ocean girl Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:27 PM
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36. No, he was not
He was a photo retoucher - you know, the guy who Photoshops - or airbrushed in the old days - two people together who were never together.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:56 PM
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16. I heard it again today, and it always makes
me want to scream at the source.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 07:57 PM
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17. Simple
Because it's too embarrassing to have to admit the anthrax came from a US government lab. That admission, if it were publicly broadcast and widely discussed, would really throws open the door to further examination as to who exactly are the real "evil-doers" and what exactly are their goals. The corporate, whore media wants no part of that, thank you very much.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:13 PM
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19. Fact - the non-coverage is scarier than the act itself. nt.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 08:29 PM
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21. When we get in power, it will be one of the first things our congressmen
should investigate.
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:10 PM
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23. I don't think it's a secret to anyone
that our government did it. The non-coverage is no doubt out of fear, as several media people were targeted. I know, they know, just about everyone knows it was the U.S. Government. This administration gets away with everything they please, it seems to me.

Why did they stop, I wonder? My guess is it was too easily traceable, and they couldn't possibly kill everyone. Another reason they couldn't continue is the affect it had on post offices - had the post offices continued to shut down, you can bet the investigation wouldn't have been silenced.

Fear works, and this administration is very good at it. I hope one day we DO get to the bottom of it, and I think the bottom would be close to the top of the administration.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:25 PM
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25. You bet your BOTTOM dollar!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:10 AM
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46. Also, it accomplished its goal. nt
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:40 PM
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27. THE SCARIEST ACT OF TERRORISM OF ALL?
Oh please. Have you been hiding in your basement with plastic duct-taped to your windows for the last 5 years?
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:52 PM
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30. Well in the official narrative of 911
Edited on Tue Sep-05-06 09:55 PM by Moochy
..in the official narrative of 911 we know the villains, they are all identified, as well as their sponsors.

Whereas the FBI(?) investigation of the anthrax murders was never resolved, and all news reports stopped about the subject. Check news archives and there are followup articles published recently, but the articles are in agreement that the govt. did not indict their person of interest.

These crimes went unsolved and unpunished.. and the perpetrators went free.

I find that pretty scary myself.


(on edit: where is that grammar checker button?)
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:52 PM
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38. bush didnt punish anthrax terrorist, cole terrorist or bin laden
three strikes..... we all know what that means

clinton brought the wtc to trial and jail
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:58 PM
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32. It (was)is quiet, anonymous, imperceptible
and was delivered through the MAIL - a route that would affect everyone in the country. I think that is scary. I hope your pomposity and smugness shelters you well.
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:46 PM
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28. I asked the same question recently.
My own thoughts on this are that they aren't looking because they know who did it. Just like Bin Laden isn't important because he had nothing to do with 911.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 09:57 PM
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31. Because the GOP did it to political enemies.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-05-06 10:44 PM
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37. i don't. but then you are talking to tv people. because, they are white
we are bettin and good ole american boys we are bettin and we dont consider that terrorism just as we never say okl city bombing is a terrorist act.

but i agree, the anthrax one is another of the many i want on the front burner
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Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 05:44 AM
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39. At least they've quit waving those vials around at speeches.
We can't carry water on a plane, but they can wave vials of fake weaponized anthrax in large crowds.
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Don1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:29 AM
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40. Good question.
Edited on Wed Sep-06-06 07:30 AM by Don1
Some scientific analyses of the anthrax have been published in peer-reviewed journals. Also, the newscientist.com has some good articles on it. It sort of seems like the source was the US military, but it is theoretically possible it was not. Therefore, the Administration is probably either hiding its involvement or its incompetence in keeping the anthrax from being stolen. BUT what was the military doing with the anthrax in the first place? And like you said, why has the news media not covered this issue?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 09:59 AM
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43. Thanks for bringing this up. Don't let it be forgotten!
K&R.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:02 AM
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44. Fifth Anniversity the ABC will take little time to investigate or document
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:05 AM
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45. Down the memory hole.
It's pretty odd. I don't believe in MIHOP/LIHOP stuff, but I do think that the Pentagon had something to do w/those attacks. Which would explain why they don't want a lot of coverage of it now.
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LUHiWY Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 10:23 AM
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47. The question?
That's the question I kept meaning to ask....but never got around to.

Strange how it was directed mostly at Democrats.
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 05:37 PM
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51. The implications of the success of the attack on the FL tabloid office
were enormous.

The anthrax was tracked into every room and the entire building was abandoned.
I'll suppose that meant files, computers, everything. Could you imagine if the
NYT or WaPo or CBS had to suddenly abandon their offices? The enterprise might
never recover.

According to Wikipedia, cleanup up postal facilities cost $130 million (Brentwood)
and $65 million (Hamilton) and cleamup of other gov't buildings was $42 million.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

The danger of anthrax contamination to insurance companies is incalculable.
Small amounts of anthrax could be undetectably spread througout entire buildings
through contaminated paper towers, office supplies, snack bags, on the carts of
janitors and maintenance workers, or through the HVAC ducts. Anthrax in the
air system of an airplane could wind up tracked through the entire airport and
onto other aircraft.

I was impressed by the speed with which the insurer of WTC7 paid off $861 million.
You would think that on a claim of that magnitude that they would spend a mil or
two finding out why the thing collapsed. They paid before the FEMA/ASCE report had
even been released in June of 2002.

I will suppose that the insurers wished to show their enthusiastic cooperation with
the people who are protecting them from terrorists.




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rightwingsucks Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 05:50 PM
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52. My thoughts on this
My thoughts on this is that it was the Bush administration in an effort to scare people.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 06:29 PM
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55. don't forget-the BFEE made a mint off anthrax
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 07:55 PM
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56. knr
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-06-06 08:38 PM
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57. Reasons for non-coverage
of anything is simple. The administration ignores it so the press river dries up. that's the sad state of affairs for the big trumpet. Single investigations are rare and run up against the walls and failures in the FBI and elsewhere and the secrecy everyone hides behind. Osama, anthrax killer of federal employees... same difference. They don't fit the agenda and in fact could run counter to the fiction AND the failure makes them look bad. So ignore it. That has been true of all the open and open and shut crimes. Some are even used brazenly in spin mode to defuse and abuse and use the failures/crimes for more failures/crimes.

As for the FBI, embarrassed and impeded in its own right with its own need to cover up, a series of bungles, crude harassment and intimidation of suspects has been happening on page two submersible stories.

The anthrax case as mystery, especially an ignored one, helps to preserve the linkage of Cheney propaganda to blame Iraq, the first provable lie to incite the nation to a predetermined war. The killer's motives themselves are deeply entangled in some way with the Cheney agenda having to do with fear, terror, bio-war exploitation. That sleeping dog must lie so the WH dog can continue to lie.

The germ was homegrown, based from our own stock. Those questions too must be buried as the business and its perils expand. Where is THAT story lately anyway? Deeper history tracing the origins of the killer(or suspects even!) and the product are even more scary to many others.

We have no real investigative reporting. The walls are up against the people. Truth doesn't matter, Justice is limited.

But a million postal employees and their families remember and behind the confident, solid dam of raw tyranny the water maintains its steady pressure.
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