Zogby: 65% of Repubs believe Sadaam was involved in 9/11

[Contrary1]

:banghead: Where does one even begin to fight this ignorance?

49% think it's ok to have your mail searched at random.
62% think regular roadblocks to search vehicles is just fine.
66% believe your purse, handbag, briefcase, backpack, or packages should be searched at random anywhere.

And a whopping 58% think Iraq has been worth the loss of American lives.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1169

[kurth]

1. 58% think Iraq has been worth the loss of American lives

Lives other than their children's.

[DIKB]

33. That's why

if they think it's worth the sacrifice. . . The should SEND THEIR KIDS !!! Not mine, and not my friends'

[acmavm]

2. These people are too stupid to live. They're lucky that

respiration is an automatic reaction. Otherwise it would just be us dems.

[specimenfred1984]

3. I Make Fun of the Dumbasses

Publically embarrass them every chance I get. It's a "win-win"; either they leave with their heads between their shoulders or they learned something.

[bdamomma]

4. those 65% of repubs are in denial of the facts

what is wrong with these people they must be allergic to facts/truth.

[eccles12]

18. It really means that they think their President is a liar. Bush has said

there was no link between Iraq and 9/11. He says it and folks just ignore it becuase Bush than turns around and says that Iraq is the central arena for war on terrorism.

[DemInDistress]

5. what's the estimated count of repubs in the country? 35%

compare that with the estimated count of Democrats what 45% and 20% undecided independents.


so 60% of repubs out of the 35% repubs is what, 20-30 million stupid people? why do they continue to allow their rights,my rights and yours to evaporate? Its really a sad commentary.

[lyonn]

12. Like your thinking.

The few repubs that have expressed their political views sound like they don't listen to the news, read anything political - - - in other words are deep into making a living, raising a family, going to college, etc. They appear to not have time to know what is really happening in the political arena. It has got to be a sound bite thing that is going on with those type repubs.

So, your calculations make sense. Thanks

[Virginia Dare]

6. Propaganda is still a very powerful tool...

as is fear.

[denverbill]

7. And 100% of them consider themselves 'patriots'

What the hell do they love about America anyway? The dirt?

It sure as hell isn't the Constitution or Bill of Rights. I don't know which freedom they could possibly love.

It's impossible to debate logically with anyone who believes Saddam was involved in 9-11, despite the lack of any evidence whatsoever and the explicit acknowledgement by the administration that he wasn't involved.

The only 'logical' explanation is that they don't know the difference between Saddam and Osama, which would not surprise me much at all.

[serryjw]

13. I wish I knew?

I have said for years that we are fighting for 'freedoms' thay have no clue what they are. It's really very disturbing.

[denverbill]

17. German Nazis during WWII probably loved Germany for it's freedoms too.

The freedom to adulate the fuhrer, the freedom to extol the virtues of nazism, the freedom to vandalize Jews property and beat up intellectuals and socialists.

[ComerPerro]

8. that's cause they have "nothing to hide"

until someone finds their stash of child porn on their laptop, that is.


But, seriously, that's the most dangerous thing about these people.

The entire Republican philosophy on life seems to be "I got mine, so fuck you"


Since they agree wholeheartedly with the fascist tactics embraced by this administration, and because they know they agree with and worship Bush, they know that they have nothing to worry about from these searches.

Not yet, at least.

But they don't think that far ahead. They don't care.

[Parisle]

9. Dealing With These People,....... ?

---- You don't have to take them seriously, and I think it is fair to treat them as enemies of the Constitution. I do.

[orwell]

10. And if you polled them when Clinton was President...

...the numbers would be reversed...and then some...

Party politics is quickly becomming brain dead...

[filer]

11. 100% can't find their asses with either hand.

But that's Ok. O'Reilly, Rush & Hannity can do their thinking for them. Why waste their time, and besides, a mind is a terrible thing to use.

[dipsydoodle]

14. What happened when they polled

turnips , swedes and cabbages ?

[StraightDope]

36. You forgot the swiss chard...

:rofl:

[dipsydoodle]

37. Oh yes !

So sorry about that. I've smacked myself round the head a couple of times in remorse. :rofl:

[kenny blankenship]

15. You can't fight it because the secret of it is THEY WANT TO BE IGNORANT

they could base their attitudes and opinions on better facts, but they simply don't want to challenge themselves. They fear that the internal struggle to assess facts for reliability, and to assess the justifications of their consequent beliefs will weaken them.
The central preoccupation of conservatism is fear and its logical remedy is "strength". Conservatives of all stripes--from Burkean traditionalists to Hitlerite Fascists, worship the strength of the country as a kind of abstract deity. This is how they can see the institution of the military, and the largest most powerful corporations, as well as the wealthiest citizens as lit up by a giant collective nimbus of a uniform and unquestionable virtue: these classes of insitutions and individuals are the pillars of the state as far as conservatives are concerned. IN fact, as far as conservatives are concerned the wealthiest citizens, the big companies and the military ARE THE STATE. Everyone and everything else is simply "deadwood" to them--ballast at best, "useless eaters" at worst. If the remainder is happy to obey the real citizens of the country then that constitutes good citizenship; if on the other hand, some of the remainder believe themselves to be their own people, with their own right to be here, and refuse to make themselves the happy obedient tools of the elite classes, then they are shitdisturbers and criminals to be watched, and possibly liquidated. Anything that, in their eyes, enlarges the strength of the country vis a vis other countries is to be encouraged, prioritized, praised and justified no matter what. Anything that would, so they fear anyway, tend to hinder the expansion of their country's power is to be stopped, struck down, vilified and anathematized, no matter what. Of course their lists of what should be promoted and what should be destroyed refers almost exclusively to the interests of their three cherished and valorized pillars of the state. They have no interest whatsoever in questions of what is a just society and whether their society might be made more just or made more environmentally sustainable or just a better place for most people to live. Strength is all to them because Fear is First. The goal of the state is singular in the conservative mind: to survive and fatten itself on whatever resources may be found. It succeeds in this by defending the survival of and fattening the strongest of its constituent members, the elite. All other considerations and all of those who propose other considerations are "the enemy within".

Bringing conservatives out of their conservatism through presentation of more reliable facts rarely works, because just as non-conservatives represent the "enemy within" that conservative paranoia typically fixates upon and reserves for its bitterest vituperations, the invitation to critical examination of facts and to examinations of the linkages between political attitudes and facts, is quite simply received by the conservative as an invitation to host "the enemy within" in his or her own brain. It's like a seduction to "perverse" acts, or an airborne contagion--the reaction for the conservative brain to these invitations is flee or fight. Accordingly they cultivate ignorance of facts, and collect and cherish false "facts" in the face of easily available and more reliable information, as a guard against any willpower-subverting, non-conservative invitations to think things over. It's quite literally true for conservatives that IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

[Disturbed]

16. After being bombarded with statements from

the Busholini Regime indirectly linking Saddam with al Q it is not surprising that so many millions still believe this myth. Yeah, in spite of the fact that Busholini has stated, at least twice that Iraq has nothing to do with the 911 Attacks. Apparently, they don't believe Busholini regarding this.

[yorkiemommie1]

22. i see it in my husband every time i bring up some facts

his eyes shade over, his voice develops a defensive tone and he leaps to the defense of 'pillars'. There are many who cultivate cognitive ignorance in themselves.

[AX10]

19. Republicans are blood worshippers. What else can be said?

[PresidentWar]

20. GOP Conservatives are proven to be more drawn to authoritarianism

John Dean pointed that out, citing a study, in his newest book; the amount was just mindblowing - something like 45%. He was pressed by the interviewer, of course, for the percentage of "Leftists" prone to embrace authoritarianism. It was about 2%.

So much for the "leftist authoritarian" bullshit meme.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. 65% of the 35% of the country who are Repubs is not a big

number. The findings are, of course, shocking in their glaring portrayal of stupidity, but this isn't vastly different from any other report we've heard.

[glitch]

31. This is the fascist backwash that exists as a baseline in any population

At some remote point in our evolutionary history it may have been an advantage. Perhaps when we were tiny moles hiding from big lizards.

[young_at_heart]

23. So, I guess this means brainwashing works

Who was that said if you tell a ile over and over and over it finally becomes the truth?

[Disturbed]

26. Herman Goering was a master of Propaganda.

Yeah, he was an evil person but a creative PR, Spin Meister. The Busholini Regime have studied his program and use it. It does work until reality intrudes.

[smoogatz]

24. Well, of course they believe a lot of nonsense.

They're good little Nazis, doing and thinking what the Leader tells them to.

[onenote]

25. what's scary is that 1/3 of the Dems polled think that way too

:wtf:

[Mr_Spock]

27. Republicans are the people who bring fascism to you

All while they point at someone else "he's the Nazi".

Morons - all of them.

[MissWaverly]

28. it's comfortable inside that bubble

money pouring in, your kids don't have to fight, yes, it's mighty comfortable in the bubble.

[Auntie Bush]

29. Edwards is right. We have two Americas!

Let them have their own fascist country and we can have ours with peace, privacy and Democracy.

I bet if we did...after a few years of no personal rights or privacy with everyone looking up their skirts and 10 kids...they'll all end up in our state.

[kaygore]

30. They are as incurious as their Chimpster leader--what dumb asses

[progressoid]

32. 65% are DOUCHE BAGS

the other 35% are douche bag nozzles.

[Az_lefty]

34. My God, what utter stupidity.

:kick:

[sampsonblk]

35. They are stupid. Why meet them half way?

This is why I have a problem with 'moderate' Dems. Why the HELL should our side meet these people half way? Does that mean we should validate these people's fantasies by pretending that they may be partially right? That they may have half a clue? Wrong is wrong.

Meanwhile, as we continue to humor them, their side is on the radio and FoxNews saying that we hate America, and that we want their children raped and then beheaded by terrorists. No wonder we lose.

Let's face them head on - like Wes Clark is doing - and let's get their hands off the damn wheel!

[Cobalt-60]

38. Hmm. Crunching some numbers...informally

To be a freeper, you just can't be running at more than 100 IQ.- 50 % of the population, ideally.
.65 * .5 = .325.
32.5%- isn't that about the percentage of Republican Kool Aid drinkers in the overall population?
So does it mean that the Republican rank and file is drawn from the crowd with mittens tied to their jackets?

[CarlVK]

39. Deceiving statistics.

First of all only about 30 some odd percent of people think the war was worth fighting these days. You need to take 65% of THAT number, not the general population, to get closer to the truth as to how many complete dumb asses still are allowed to roam freely every day.

[sknabt]

40. Proof that their Rush-strength OxyContin prescription is just enough!

:sarcasm: