Giuliani's 9/11 troubles worsen ...

[welshTerrier2]

if you've been reading the '08 polls, which are probably close to meaningless at this point in time, Rudy Giuliani, former mayor of NYC, is the republican front-runner ...

well, that may be about to change ... it's starting to look like Rudy may have put the safety of New York residents and WTC police and fire teams at risk in the weeks following 9/11 ... why did he do it? political pressure from the WH to make things look like they were getting back to normal? because it was costing the city money? who knows ... the point is Giuliani told New Yorkers it was safe to return to their homes in NYC and it was safe to work cleaning up the WTC site when he had been warned by the EPA that it was not safe ... the air in the area was filled with potentially deadly toxins ...

source: http://wcbstv.com/local/local_story_250165234.html

Memo: NYC Reopened WTC Area Despite EPA Warning

CBS 2 Exclusive: Rudy Giuliani was hailed a hero after 9/11. But CBS 2 has learned his administration may have knowingly put New Yorkers in harm's way after the attacks. CBS 2 obtained memos that show the city was told the air at Ground Zero was toxic, but reopened Lower Manhattan anyway.

What did the former mayor know about the air quality at Ground Zero and when did he know it?

An explosive memo from the federal Environmental Protection Agency to an associate commissioner at the city health department -- dated October 5, 2001 -- told the tale. "This site ... poses threats to workers related to potential exposure to hazardous substances," the head of EPA's Response and Prevention Branch wrote. The memo went on to list the hazardous substances, which included asbestos, refrigerants, hazardous wastes, ethylene and "products of combustion emitted from the long-burning fires."

"If that information existed how dare they keep that from everyone -- not just the workers but the people who lived down there," said Leigh Ann Vinciguerra, the wife of a 9/11 first responder.

The head of the city's fire union charged that firefighters and rescue workers in the pit were left unprotected. "The fact that the city knew that the air wasn't safe and had a responsibility to protect us and didn't do anything is a disgrace," said fire union president Stephen Cassidy. "It was all about money and it wasn't about the safety of first responders. Those people should be ashamed of themselves."

Former Mayor Giuliani was not available for comment.

also, read the following excerpt from another article for additional details:

source: http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_249164937.html

One of the memos, from the New York City health department, dated Oct. 6, 2001, noted: "The mayor's office is under pressure from building owners ... in the Red Zone to open more of the city." The memo said the Department of Environmental Protection was "uncomfortable" with opening the areas but, "The mayor's office was directing the Office of Emergency Management to open the target areas next week."

"Not only did they know it was unsafe, they didn't heed the words of more experienced people that worked for the city and E.P.A.," said Joel Kupferman, with the group Environmental Justice Project.

[flyarm]

1. can we get this message to the mid west yet??

hellooooo Kansas, and Missouri, ...this is NY...can you hear me now?????????


fly

[Cosmocat]

7. It doesn't matter one iota ...

The republican propoganda machine if full at work, with the MSM as it's adoring front man ...

History is being reworked as we speak, Reagan was a truly GREAT president ... Bush was a "guy you could have a beer with" and is now a "decisive leader who is keeping us safe" ... AND, Rudy Guilliani saved lives and was a hero on 9-11 ...

[trotsky]

8. Hey, you forgot the FULL story.

Rudy Giuliani bravely ran into both burning towers and personally escorted all the survivors to freedom. He emerged from the rubble of the south tower to finish evacuating the north tower, then crawled out of that wreckage to administer first aid to everyone and put out the fires single-handedly. Then he was rushed to a press conference to assure everyone that all was OK. The man is a NATIONAL TREASURE and SENT BY GOD, dammit!

Note: THE ABOVE IS A DOCUDRAMA. IT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED BUT I THINK PEOPLE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT THE EVENTS SURROUNDING 9/11.

[Democrats_win]

2. "Today people are cursing god that Giuliani was their mayor on 9/11."

Sort of a take on Giuliani's 2004 Repub convention speech in which he claimed he thanked god that Fortunate Son, AWOL, was pResident on 9/11.

[JI7]

3. he doesn't care about the people of NY , he is a phony, a bigger one than

Bush and his stupid cowboy acts.

Ghouliani is a racist who supports torture of minorites. wants to put limits on freedom of speech. endangered the people of NYC by not being prepared and as this states, endangered them afterwards.

it was another guy who was responsible for the reduction of crime in NYC, but the Ghoul got jealous of him for getting attention so had him fired and then decided to take credit for it himself.

[faithnotgreed]

4. kicking

[Pool Hall Ace]

5. Yes, he's just as pathetic as the chimp.

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. I went back to work at 125 Broad on Monday, September 17, 2001

The fucking air was noxious, and we had a big firm wide meeting in which the Head-Partner-In-Charge assured us that the air was clean. I'll never forget it: all the upstanding, bourgeois lawyers nodding solemnly, and all the black support staff making sidelong glances at each other like "That's some straight bullshit," and that's when I knew. The whole area stunk like burning plastic and tannery until mid-October; it would hit you like a dump truck when you got off the subway. I'm guessing I'll probably die from that fucking air one day, that there may be a little time bomb in my cells waiting to manifest itself.

But hey, we could all have a big party because the MARKET WAS OPEN!!!!! Yay, market!!!

Fucking savages.

[noonwitch]

9. The GOP is not going to nominate him anyways

I have nothing personal against Rudy. I think he was great on 9-11, and as far as this goes, well, it's one of those hindsight being 20/20 things.

But the religious fanatics who are currently in control of the GOP are never going to let a pro-choice divorcee head their ticket.

[welshTerrier2]

10. hindsight???

you're going to excuse his sending people into a toxic environment as "hindsight"?

if the article is accurate, he was warned by the EPA that the air in lower Manhattan was potentially life-threatening and he opted to ignore the warnings ... that's not hindsight; it's both criminal and immoral ...

as for the GOP never letting him run, that's probably true ... of course, the evangelicals have been deserting the GOP on a broad scale so the next republican nominee may be from a very different wing of the party than we've become accustomed to ...