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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:29 AM
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The ABC website opened with a "Path to 911" trailer earlier today but ...
now it opens with a Swiffer commercial.

They may be rethinking things.
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:41 AM
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1. trying to clean things up, apparently
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:45 AM
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2. Maybe the Big Dawg showed up @ ABC's Corp Hdqtrs today....
With a swifter in one hand, and his lawsuit in the other...
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randy5235 Donating Member (20 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 01:46 AM
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3. SmokeScreen and Spin
I think that this whole path to 9/11 is a smokescreen, a look over there ignore the man behind the curtain issue. I think that the Democrats protesting so loudly ( and rightfully so I may add) is somehow going to be used against us. Perhaps the Repubs will try to claim that we are trying to silence criticism against the Democratic party. I think that the DNC needs to issue a very public statement that these things are undeniably false and a misrepresentation of the facts. They need to stay on course with the election cycle.


Just my 2 Cents.
Randy
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 02:15 AM
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4. Welcome to DU. Thank you for your concern.
Edited on Fri Sep-08-06 02:16 AM by aquart
Protesting Democrats heartens others. The more we protest, the more creep out from under the covers of fear and join us.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:04 AM
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5. Not loudly and clearly and vehemently protesting lies is a mistake
Ask John Kerry. It's nice to see that the Democrats aren't making the same mistake twice.
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verdalaven Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:28 AM
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6. Dems do what is right for this country
Forcing ABC to yank this piece of propaganda crap before it even sees the light of day is the right thing to do.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:57 AM
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:59 AM
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13. No, the poster is glad that back-door RW propaganda was stopped
And, it was propganda... and, the addition of Scholastic was the icing on the disgusting cake.

The GOVERNMENT didn;'t force anyone into silence... they helped with the propaganda. The opposition government is "forcing" ABC to take some personal responsibility and not allow HATEFUL, PARTISAN Propaganda be aired and beamed into America's schoolrooms.

Nice try, though. Have fun.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:24 AM
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18. Which current government officials have spoken out?
No company is "forced" into silence. Michael Moore gets his word out--without support by a shadowy "private company." And without free time on broadcast TV.

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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:21 AM
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17. The Republicans use EVERYTHING against us.
Whether we protest or not.

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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:52 AM
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7. I just posted about Donnie Walhberg pulling his link...
... to the pics of this 9/11 miniseries from his website.

Things that make you go hmmmmm.

My post is in GD.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:52 AM
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:44 AM
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11. lying is NOT free speech
this is being presented as a factual documentary which IT IS NOT
George W. Bush was President for over 250 days before 9/11 happened. He got multiple warnings of an immenent terrorist strike. To blame others for his failings is very cowardly.

From an individual that wrote an ABC screenplay:

"Two days before we're ready to shoot the scene, I'm on the set doing dialogue polishes, and a Production Assistant rushes over to me with a cell phone and tells me that she has the network President on the line.

Hullo?

The network President proceeds at this point to unleash such a demonic torrent of expletives and epithets at me that my legs began to shake.

He has read the script.

He does not like the script.

Specifically, he does not like the monologue. "Who the FUCK do you think you are, you little shitbag FUCK? Do you know who I am? Are you aware that I can shit down the throat of your little pissant career in about six fucking seconds?" This was the gentle interlude of the conversation.

He then proceeded to tell me that I would rewrite the monologue in a new direction, and I made the mistake of telling him I needed a new motivation for the character -- which of course unleashed yet another flash flood of expletives and epithets before he finally told me to "fuck off and get the fuck to work" and hung up on me.

I related the conversation to my producers and my director, a gentlemanly English bloke who had to be talked out of quitting the movie and/or calling the President on the phone to give him a piece of his mind. I then got down to rewriting.

An hour later I faxed the revised monologue to the network President, as requested. And we waited.

An hour later, the fax machine rang. Slowly, pages started to appear. New pages. With new dialogue. That looked nothing like what I had written.

The President of a major television network had rewritten my scene. Every. Single. Word.

It wasn't bad. In fact, it wasn't atrocious. It was beyond atrocious. It made no sense either on its own, or coming from the mouth of our protagonist.

One final page scrolled off the fax. It was a note, unsigned, in the hand of the network President. It read:

"Television shows are filler between commercials. You are replaceable."

Two days later, we shot the scene as the network President had written it -- word for nauseating word.

My point?


Decisions regarding Path to 9/11 -- from its content at every phase of development and production to its marketing and promotion and publicity -- were microscopically controlled at the very highest levels of ABC and Disney. Their obligation to advertisers and shareholders demands as much. In fact, the influence of advertisers and shareholders in all of these matters vastly exceeds that of any creative talent, including consultative producers, and executives are the stewards of those interests.

The question now becomes whose influence was powerful enough to persuade ABC and Disney executives to take such an egregious gamble when they knew their product stood a decent chance of driving away or alienating those advertisers, and costing those shareholders millions of dollars?


It takes power to pull the strings of power. The kind of power a Tom Kean doesn't have. Kean's a messenger boy in this equation.

Look elsewhere.

Look bigger."

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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 07:53 AM
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12. Welcome to DU
"The brilliance of the Republican party tactics is on full display."

Ummm, right. :crazy:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:07 AM
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15. I know -- just like glass, eh?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:10 AM
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16. Check out this thread, Mad Dem
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 08:05 AM
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14. Good try again -- but it's still not working
And, in this post, you're being even MORE obvious. You have to learn to be subtle.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 06:52 AM
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9. Tell Swiffer that they might be held accountable for ABC letting it on
too ...
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