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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 01:11 PM
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For Those Of You That Think Being Virtuous And Honest Wins Elections
I hate to say it, but YOU are the problem.

We start winning elections when we start playing by the same rulebook the GOP plays by.

Until we do that, nothing matters. Absolutely nothing.

You can shriek and holler all you want to about the 9/11 "documentary" fiasco.

But the reality is, if we were playing hardball, WE would have made OUR documentary about how it's proven Bush lied about getting us into Iraq and it would be poised to air on CBS tonight in a worldwide debut.

Our political skills are incredibly lame. And who's fault is that?

Hint: it ain't the Republican's fault.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 01:15 PM
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1. Our side needs it's own Donald Segretti
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 01:15 PM by bluestateguy
Head of Nixon's ratfucking operations in the early 1970's.

Sometimes you have to fight dirty for the good of the country.
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LiberalArkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 01:17 PM
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2. I tend to disagree. The reason Democrats have a problem is
no one see any difference between the publicans and the democrats. Back when the Liberals fought for "Truth Justice and the American Way" they could not defeated.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 01:42 PM
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3. Dems get clobbered when they do stuff like the GOP does
Righties don't care if their party lies or cheats. Some righties seem to even get a power rush out of it. Voters on the left won't put up with dirty tricks and they shouldn't. Nor is it necessary to play dirty. It is necessary for the party to stand up to dirty tactics rather than running away from them like they've so often done.

Truth is on our side. That's a big advantage.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 01:46 PM
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4. I disagree...
Edited on Sun Sep-10-06 02:19 PM by Gman
the Dems don't have to lie or cheat. Dems need to tell the truth with just as much an in-you-face confrontation style as the GOP uses. Dems don't need dirty tricks to win. They just need to be light-years more aggressive with the truth. He who can shout down the other in politics wins.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 01:56 PM
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5. It is quite simple
All we have to do is point out the differences between the two parties.

And be bold while doing just that.

Do you want a party that protects social security? Or do you want the kind that walked around patting themselves on the back while the flood waters flowed?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 01:59 PM
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6. GOP rulebook says BUY UP MEDIA CONTROL AND VOTING MACHINE Companies.
I agree - let's have Deep pocket Democrats do the same.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:15 PM
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7. Thom Hartmann says we MUST MOCK our opponents...
This Hartmann article from '04 was the most important thing I read in '04. I took it to heart and used mockery in all my GOTV efforts AND it was very well received. I urge all DUers to read all of Hartmann's article linked below.

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0817-13.htm

Cheney Speaks to the Reptile Brain
by Thom Hartmann

We humans, being the product of a long evolutionary process, really have three brains. And, as the Bush psy-ops folks know, politicians who win campaigns do so because they speak to all three of those brains.

First there's the most primitive of our brains, sometimes referred to as the "reptilian brain" because we share it in common with reptiles like alligators and komodo dragons. The reptile brain has a singular focus: survival. It doesn't think in abstract terms, and doesn't feel complex emotions. Instead, it's responsible for fight-or-flight, hunger and fear, attack or run. It's also non-verbal - you can stimulate it with the right words, but it operates purely at the level of visceral stimulus-response. The second brain is one we share with the animals that came along after reptiles - mammals. The mammalian brain - sometimes referred to as the Limbic Brain because it extends around and off of the reptilian brain in a dog-leg shape that resembles a limb - handles complex emotions like love, indignation, compassion, envy, and hope. Anybody who's worked with animals or had a pet knows that mammals share these emotions with humans, because we share this brain. While a snake can't feel shame or enthusiasm, it's completely natural for a dog or cat. And, like the reptile brain, the mammalian brain can also be stimulated indirectly by words, and is also non-verbal. It expresses itself exclusively in the form of feelings, although these are more often felt in the heart than the gut.
The third brain - the neocortex ("new" cortex) - is something we share with the higher apes, although ours is a bit more sophisticated. Resting over the limbic brain (which is, in turn, atop the reptilian brain), our neocortex is where we process abstract thought, words and symbols, logic and time.

When Dick Cheney recently took John Kerry's comment about sensitivity in the war on terror out of context and spun it for his audiences, he was performing a psychologically masterful bit manipulation of all three brains.

Only ridicule with a subtext of fear has this power.

WE MUST RIDICULE AND MOCK OUR OPPONENTS


For today (Path to 911) I bring forth this piece of educational mockery





Right click and choose Save Target As to download PDF for printing

http://bushcheated04.com/img/080601pdb.pdf

For tomorrow we must make this election about incompetence, failure and the Iraq War.




Right click and choose Save Target As to download PDF for printing



http://bushcheated04.com/war2.pdf

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-10-06 02:37 PM
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8. Being popular, getting out the vote and getting vote counted wins.
The GOP's latest game plan accomplishes none of these. It tries to make Dems unpopular, but it does not increase the popularity of its own guys and it may turn off already disenchanted GOP base and keep them at home. I am surprised the GOP isnt trying to mobilize its base.
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