A Word The Democrats Refuse To Say,...

[Parisle]

---- When Gary Hart appeared on the Jon Stewart Show the other night, he actually made a rare and stunning mention of the Project for a New American Century,... the PNAC,.. the neocon's charter organization, and among whose original signatories may now be found a dozen key administration officials,... Cheney, Rumsfeld, Woldowitz, Feith, Armitage, Perle, Ledeen, Dobriansky among them. Not bit players, eh? A goddamned fraternity of neo-nazis managed to take over the executive branch of this government,... and democrats will not even mention the group by name, nor point to the amazing "coincidence" of their representation in this administration. Why the hell is that?

[cspanlovr]

1. That is a very good question.

[SutaUvaca]

2. Good question is right.

I use the PNAC name in talking to my fundie bushite siblings. They all seem ignorant of what PNAC is. At least one of them, though, is simply playing dumb.

IT does seem odd that Dems in congress never seem to talk about PNAC. The presence of so many PNACers in high places almost self-defines conspiracy/coup for anyone with eyes to see.

[Yoda Yada]

3. There is so much the Democrats "refuse to say".

And I don't understand it either. At some point they have to know that Republicans DON'T play by the rules. They do what they have to do to stay in power....lie, cheat, steal, distort....you name it.

And the next time a Republican DEMANDS a Democrat to apologize for speaking his/her mind, I want to hear someone quote Dick Cheney and tell them to ...

"Go f*** yourself!"

[ChipsAhoy]

8. Thanks for the reality post.

I get so tired of the rose colored glasses around here which are NOT going to advance our cause.

Time to speak up!!

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[AndyA]

6. I think this is correct.

If the Dems aren't in on it, they also have something to hide. They won't call out the PNAC because there's something equally sinister on the left side as well, and we just don't know about it yet.

It's time for a clean slate, out with the old, in with the new. New blood, fresh faces, new ideas, and a fresh outlook. A new start. That's what America truly needs!

[SixStrings]

10. Hear, hear. I know what I posted almost sounds crazy...

but for the love of gawd, at what point to people say "it looks like a duck'..etc?

The proof of massive corruption and collusion between the two parties is staring us right in the face, everyday.

It's frustrating.

[blm]

12. Clue phone's ringing..... Hart has been working closely with Kerry for a

few years now. They were together last Saturday delivering a major speech on Iraq and national security - Hart introduced.

Hart has also been writing articles backing up Kerry's withdrawal plans for Iraq.

They are as close as two foreign policy minds can get.

[SixStrings]

13. Let me get this straight...'A major speech on Iraq and National

security', and a few articles are supposed to somehow show people that these guys are on our side? With all the overwhelming evidence of fraud, criminal actions,etc, etc this administration has been committing for the last 6 yrs, this is it?

Oh yeah...I picked up the phone - it's for you.

[blm]

16. Who's shallow enough to see history ONLY in terms of the last 6yrs ?

You couldn't possibly believe these policies today stand alone.

Kerry worked his ass off, mostly on his own, to expose IranContra, BCCI and CIA drugrunning - the roots to everything happening today. To include him as someone who just sat back and let it happen is a gross distortion of history and would lead to the conclusion that you aren't fully enough aware of the last 40 years of covert operations and WHO was working to expose it and who lined up against those efforts.

You were right in that Clinton and Gore sided with the coverups and closed the books when they took office, but you were wrong in that Kerry was the one who worked to expose the operations and was forced to do it mostly on his own. He was ostracized by most of DC for years while he was uncovering BCCI.

[catnhatnh]

5. How Victorian....

...of the Democrats- "Pnac, the plan that dare not speak it's name...". And equally, how quaintly reticent are our representatives are to address a major subject. Hopefully someday soon they will at least admit that they admire a "well turned" pair of ankles....." or in more modern argot, notice the elephant in the room.

[whistle]

11. Florida's governor is a PNAC board member, Jeb Bush, but I...

...understand that PNAC has been dissolved now that the heat is on and members have moved their base of operations to the U.K. under the umbrella group know as the Henry Jackson Society

<snip>
Project For New American Century May Be Closing Now That It's "Goal Accomplished" In Iraq...

Mission Accomplished?

The doors may be closing shortly on the nine-year-old Project for a New American Century, the neoconservative think tank headed by William Kristol , former chief of staff to Vice President Dan Quayle and now editor of the Weekly Standard, which is must reading for neocon cogitators and agitators.

The PNAC was short on staff -- having perhaps a half-dozen employees -- but very long on heavy hitters. The founders included Richard B. Cheney , Donald H. Rumsfeld , Paul D. Wolfowitz , Jeb Bush , I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby , William J. Bennett, Zalmay Khalilzad and Quayle.

The goal was to continue the Reaganite, muscular approach to projecting American power and "moral clarity" in a post-Cold War world, the group's manifesto said. The targets were liberal drift and conservative isolationism.

PNAC and its supporters dominated the Bush administration's foreign policy apparatus and championed a policy to get rid of Saddam Hussein long before Sept. 11, 2001. <more>

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/11/AR2006061100739.html

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2006/3333uk_scoop_soc.html

[RaleighNCDUer]

7. I stood up and cheered when Hart mentiioned PNAC.

Can you call it a conspiracy theory if the conspiracy is real? Can you call it a conspiracy if it is in the open, for all the world to see?

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[mmonk]

14. Some support the PNAC while some that don't fear

the consequences. The party is divided on the PNAC dream and this is why opposition to this administration has been weak at times and a battle over semantics.

[Greeby]

15. I should think Zalmay Khalilzad might be having second thoughts

Being under siege in the Green Zone and all

[welshTerrier2]

17. let's make a list of banned words in Dem speak ...

here's mine:

peace
empire
imperialism
corporatism
plutocracy
oligarchy