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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:24 PM
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Crossfire (2/6/04) Can anyone derail Kerry?
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 04:53 PM by Wonk
(on edit: this is a snip, in case that wasn't glaringly obvious)

John Kerry gets a big endorsement from one of his former rivals and Howard Dean is resting all of his hopes in the cheese state. Will Dick Gephardt's endorsement of Kerry give the front-runner's campaign even more momentum? Does Howard Dean have a chance of stopping Kerry in Wisconsin? Top advisers to the Kerry and Dean campaigns weigh in on their candidate's chances of getting the Democratic top slot. Tune in for all that and more starting at 4:30 p.m. ET.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/crossfire/
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:25 PM
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1. Who writes this crap? Do they have absolutely NO imagination?
Edited on Fri Feb-06-04 04:27 PM by janx
It's the same stuff over and over again--same stuff, different candidate.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:40 PM
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7. They have a MS Word template
They just swap out names for whichever candidate they want to tear down. Why does Kerry have to be derailed? Why not ask if another candidate might overtake Kerry?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:25 PM
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2. GGGrrrrr...
so what do ya think "Bowtie-boy" will do when Clark wins in Wisconsin?
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:32 PM
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3. If you're gonna cut and paste, put the excerpt in quotes or italicise,...
...otherwise people will think you're plagiarizing/stealing other people's work - and we all know you would never do that, would you?
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:37 PM
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6. The link is an itty bitty clue. nt
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:42 PM
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8. Not enough of one, imo. Apparently you don't take the issue seriously...
...can't say that surprises me though.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:44 PM
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10. http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/rules.html
(snip, in case it isn't obvious enough for you)

If you wish to reference an article, provide a brief excerpt and include a link to the original source.
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delhurgo Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:48 PM
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12. Yes, that would work for most people. I'm just lookin out for your own ...
... reputation. Suit yourself though. It's certainly isn't something I would want to be thought of me.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 05:11 PM
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13. Most folks here think Wonk's rep is just about perfect.
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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:34 PM
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4. Endorsements are meaningless as we now see.
God could endorse Kucinich and the fundies would still vote for Bush.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:36 PM
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5. I actually think Gephardt's counts for a lot
He had a lot of unions and organization behind him. He is a powerful speaker and his statement today was "charged". It was a real old fashioned political rally.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:42 PM
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9. Eh, I'd disagree...
If Michigan was a close race, having Gephardt's union support would've been a coup.

But Kerry already has Michigan in the bag, so Gephardt's endorsement doesn't add much at all, IMHO.

As we saw in Iowa, Gephardt doesn't exactly fire up the base any more. Or the middle, for that matter.

The fact that he waited until AFTER Kerry had cemented his front-runner status to endorse him also speaks volumes.

If Gep really wanted to show some stones, he should've made his voice heard before the Missouri primary.







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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 04:48 PM
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11. I belong to a union
and rarely does it affect the rank and file vote individually. Actually when one of the unions on our property backed Clinton it looked like there was going to be a revolt.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:24 PM
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14. I think he did the right thing for a fair shot at Missouri.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:28 PM
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15. Edwards has the best shot.
If Edwards wins big on Tuesday, we may get a brokered convention.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:10 PM
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16. Ditto -- except replace Edwards with Clark
The better finisher in VA & TN will be Kerry's main rival.

If Edwards finishes ahead of Clark in both states, Clark will likely drop out soon after and we'll end up with a Kerry/Edwards ticket.

If Clark wins either state or Edwards drops out due to 3rd place finishes, Clark will gain serious momentum and *will* stand a chance to challenge Kerry. Kerry will begin looking less inevitable when compared directly with Clark.

However, even if Edwards finishes 3rd in both states on Tuesday, he may stick in the race in order to stop Clark from stopping Kerry; and, without Dean similarly assisting Clark, Kerry & the establishment win control.

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