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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:13 PM
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I've got "mixed emotions" about Harold Ford Jr.
On the plus side, he's got a D behind his name. He's intelligent, good on his feet, well-spoken. He's obviously a skillful politician. On the other hand, he is almost as pro-war as *. I believe he supported the Patriot Act, and basically he sounds like a Publican. I know, I know. He's got to be centrist to win in a southern state like Tennessee. But I'm not sure I want to see him aspire any higher than the Senate.

For now, I'll take a Ford win to help the Dems re-take the Senate majority.

Bake
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:16 PM
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1. There are no perfect candidates.. and I'm glad you'll support him
... despite any differences you have with him!

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Flirtus Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:16 PM
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2. It's easy,
We'll vote for the (D). If you knew Corker like we know Corker, you'd vote for anybody but Corker, too.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:29 PM
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10. Dunno Corker, but saw Wonkette's spotlight on his daughter..
Although.. we even had a couple DU'er guys who kinda-sorta liked Miss Corker after they saw them.. LOL!

"Republican Family Values:"



http://www.wonkette.com/politics/kids/more-facebook-fun-bob-corkers-daughter-experiments-with-mary-cheneyism-180720.php
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:44 PM
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12. Looks like the next edition of Girls Gone Wild
Woo hooo!

Bake
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:16 PM
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3. I agree with you.
But my god, the guy's got a fire in his gut. When he made a run for Minority Leader back in '03, I thought "This guy is ballsy."
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:18 PM
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4. Oh he is a street fighter for sure.
This morning on Imus, he very smoothly (I was IMPRESSED) said he wasn't going to "go negative," but then Imus gave him an opening and Ford just shoved the knife in Corker's back. And smiled while he was doing it.

He's good.

Bake
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:21 PM
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5. I guess that's the trick to going negative.
You've got to do it as positively as possible.

It's hard to say "My opponent molests collies" positively, though. :rofl:
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:44 PM
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13. My Opponent, Sir
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 04:45 PM by The Magistrate
Loves dogs; no one would deny that, or that it is a great thing that he does. But he has been known, it is reported, to have pressed that love past normal bounds, into extremes that no decent human could be expected to tolerate in a public figure. He is going to have to do something soon to tamp down these rumors poisoning the campaign, and convince people he is in fact just a normal dog-lover, and put these charges to rest once and for all. A man who indulges in that sort of behavior is hardly fit for public office: most of us would surely agree with that.

"That sounds like a wager to me...."
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:53 PM
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14. That's a very good way to do it.
Ascribe the attack to someone else.

"Some say my opponent has unnatural relations with farm animals. That kind of attack is reprehensible. My opponent would never engage in unnatural relations with farm animals; everyone knows this. We must, in these contentious times, rise above such petty and false attacks."
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:23 PM
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17. Lyndon Johnson did it better than anyone else!
Though he called his opponent a pigfucker: http://www.sfweekly.com/Issues/2002-04-03/news/smith.html
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:42 PM
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18. "Let's see the SOB deny it."
I first read that story in Hunter Thompson's book about the '92 presidential campaign, Better than Sex.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:23 PM
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6. I personally urged him to be a statesman rather than just a dime-a-dozen
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 04:24 PM by indepat
politician and he would have lost my vote in perpetuity for his pro-war and eliminate the estate tax stands, among others, but look at what we've had with Dr. cat-lover Frist and will have with no amnesty Corker.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:24 PM
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7. If Ford were running in Massachussetts, I'd be against him too.
He's running in Tennessee. I support him completely!

You do know, I assume, he was Kerry's 'co-campaign-chair' or some such title in the 94 race. You may not agree with all his positions, but he's a good, loyal Dem - more than can be said for *some* other pro-war former Dems we know.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:18 PM
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16. If he were running in MA, he'd have a different take on MANY positions
As I said elsewhere, All Politics is Local!
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:26 PM
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8. That is because he is DLC...
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:26 PM
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9. I like Ford, but probably wouldn't support a Presidential bid by him.
He's an excellent Senate candidate, however.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 04:32 PM
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11. Yep. Let's go with the plan to capture the Senate, too. And Ford's
not a bad politician at all.

Plus, Corker's a lunkhead.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:16 PM
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15. All Politics Is Local
And there can be NO change at all unless those are DEMOCRATIC asses warming the seats.

First, we need to get our people elected. We really need to spare them the demands for ideological purity, particularly when adopting that sort of stance will ensure they go down in flames....
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 05:47 PM
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19. Fight Club rule.....
Get Dems elected then push on progressive issues. :toast:
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nasher Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 06:40 PM
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20. Tennessee needs a senator like Ford.
We have had enough of these Corker/ Frist types.
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