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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 02:07 PM
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George Soros compares Bush Propaganda to Nazism.
More and more people are starting to state the obvious, even though it frightens them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DuafAqAHrc
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 02:07 PM
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1. Mr. Soros is correct nm
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:16 AM
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21. ...and Daniel Ellsberg compares Bush Iraq invasion to Hitler's invasions
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 02:21 PM
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2. I wish he'd come back with some of the many examples of * saying the
same things that Hitler and Stalin and Mussolini all said during their run-up to totalitarianism.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 02:25 PM
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3. I think the freeper response says it all.
Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 02:26 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
To: oxcart
So the President is up there with the Pope now. The Lzlamomuzziethugs called the Pope Hitler andf now Sorriass calls GWB a Nazi. This puke is disgusting. He needs his own little country and then we can nuke it.

Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew.



7 posted on 09/15/2006 10:51:24 AM PDT by shankbear
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Talk about Brown shirts.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 09:14 PM
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18. I can't even decipher this utter senselessness.
WTF is/are "Lzlamomuzziethugs" anyway?

This kind of thing is the reason for moving to a blue place.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:24 PM
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19. Your guess is as good as mine,
It seems like the label Islamofascist came off the FR site, which I first heard publicly used by Phil Gingrey (R), the congressman from GA, on the house floor. This guy might be trying to coin a new term for our government to use in it's never ending war on terror.

Causes me to be seriously concerned about our Congress.
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 02:29 PM
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4. I;m reading a book entitled "Hitler, A Study in Tyranny" by Alan Bullock.
I picked it up in a used book store. Its a revised edition, copyrighted 1962 & 1964. I think KKKarl Rove has a copy too. The only thing Soros said that was wrong is that he "should have kept it to himself". Why, if you're an influential billionaire, and you have lived through the Holocaust, would be want to keep this to yourself?
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 02:34 PM
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5. Because when people who have a high profile start talking the
truth, is about the same time they start ending up in the gulag. Perhaps he thought the book wouldn't get the kind of attention Wolf is giving it.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 03:42 PM
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6. Soros does good work but I am getting tired of all the WWII references...
... on both sides. Why can't a person be a evil son of a bitch on their own without invoking Hitler, Nazism, Mussolini, Stalin, etc. ? It's a ridiculous use of hyperbole that does nothing to further debate.
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 03:59 PM
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7. But, but, but...
He who is ignorant of history, is doomed to repeat it. And this is just a little too soon to forget the lessons of the rise of Hitler and his men. My uncle was at Normandy on D-Day. My father was in the Pacific (he was a Marine). That's too close for comfort if you ask me. Yet, people act as though "it could never happen". That's what they said in Germany in the 1930's, and they had a Democratic government and a Constitution at the time. The Nazi's just changed the laws to make their illegal acts legal. Sound familiar?:think: :hi:
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:12 PM
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9. That's all fine and good, but...
... it is still ridiculous to make everyone that we have a disagreement with or a war with for that matter as the equivalent to Hitler. It gets people fired up but it is a dishonest use of history to sway people and opinion towards a side.
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RangerSmith Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:26 PM
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10. Ya know,
I think it only works on firing up the faithful. It's all about establishing a benchmark on the level of hate you are supposed to espouse towards your sworn enemy.

For all the reasons you cited, I think most independents are really turned off by this ploy and it's why they look at most of the affiliated equally as kooks drinking from different pitchers of kool aid.

This is a big pet peeve of mine as well. BUT, Soros ... who I'm NOT a big fan of by the way... is one of the few who appears to understand the issue of trying to minimize Hitler's Nazi regime and IMHO actually qualified his remarks to apply more to the Fascism angle and NOT the killing of millions of Jews.

Still, it's been so overdone, I really wish people would lay off it.. again, for all the reasons you cited.
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 05:03 PM
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14. I understand what you're saying. I don't mean to suggest that the
Repugs are going to gas people. I'm talking about the political and social manipulation that went on for years before the real bad stuff started. But I can certainly understand that when one mentions the name Hitler, people think of the end of his reign, and not how it started, just after WW I. That is what I'm talking about, and its those similarities with todays crop of Repugs, that is frightening to me, and should be talked about.
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 10:39 PM
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20. Yeah, well I'm really turned off by my government becoming
Edited on Sun Sep-17-06 10:42 PM by Freedom_from_Chains
a fascist state. When the people are unwilling or too frightened to speak the truth you are all ready done for.

If those who hear the message are unwilling or too ignorant to understand its meaning, then you have done everything a reasonable person could be expected to do. So if you are afraid to speak the truth because you might offend someone or that you might piss on yourself doing it, don't then try calling yourself an American.

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm">14 Signs of Fascism
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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:00 PM
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8. And he ought to know. As a child he was right in the storm
thank you Mr. Soros, for being a powerful RICH voice against the Bush Reich.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:35 PM
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11. Why is he always introduced as...
"billionaire" George Soros? There are plenty of billionaire political pundits out there; why is only Soros labeled that way?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:38 PM
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13. Because he's a Democrat. Only Republicans are allowed to be rich.
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savemefromdumbya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 04:36 PM
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12. follows Goebbels pretty well
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 05:04 PM
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15. It's a shame that people tend to think unclearly about this topic.
Soros did a terrible job in this interview defending his own point. He often appears muddled in person, and this was no exception.

Simply stated, the Bush Administration is a more adept practitioner of the art of propaganda than the Nazis and Commies. Fox News is also very, very good at it as is Rush Limbaugh.

That doesn't make the Bush Administration murderous and totalitarian like the Nazis. That merely means that Bushists, the Nazis, and the Commies are all good at and willing to engage in propaganda to achieve their ends. Soros was not saying that the Bush "ends" are the same as the Nazis and Commies. He is only saying that the skill sets utilized are the same.
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cspanlovr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 05:33 PM
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16. Thank you for expressing what I was trying to say in #14, but not nearly
as well as you have.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-17-06 05:36 PM
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17. Agreed...I saw him with WolfTicket on CNN.....and he kind of
backtracked as opposed to clarifying what he meant.

CNN needs to be told...."It's the propaganda stoopid...and you're part of the problem! Duh!"
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