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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:19 PM
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How would your POLITICS change if ...
A simultaneous multi-city major attack, similar to 9/11, happened inside the USA and was claimed by Al-Qaeda Muslim terrorists?

How would your POLITICS change if any?
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:20 PM
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1. If we were attacked again Bush and company would be to blame
It would make me work harder to get them out
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:22 PM
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2. they wouldn't at all. it would be proof that the Neo Cons are totally
incompetent and have wasted the time and $$$ since 9/11 in Iraq rather than beefing up our internal safety
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:22 PM
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3. It wouldn't. I would still oppose secret trials, secret prisons,
...torture, and martial law.

I would still believe in civilian rule, the due process of law, and checks and balances.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:57 PM
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10. Great response, Eric.
I stand with you.
The things I believe in don't change with political whims.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:24 PM
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19. Thank you. (NT)
NT
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cleveramerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:23 PM
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4. the fear-mongers would be jubilant
they would sell us all fear all the time. Suspend all personal freedom in favor of tighter security.


in other words not much would change at all.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:23 PM
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5. I would be even more outraged by the mind numbing incompetence of bush
and would work even harder to get these criminals in the bush administration impeached and hauled before the Hague on war crimes.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:39 PM
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6. Not in the slightest
I think al Qaeda is a myth... OBL is a myth... more and more I'm convinced it was all BushCo. They were the only people to profit from 9/11.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:42 PM
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7. I'll take this one
I'd step up my calls that we pull out of Iraq NOW, because the argument that we are "fighting them over there rather than over here" would have been shown to be false.

I have also been on the fence about whether or not it's worth it for congressional Democrats to pursue impeachment of Bush. An event as you described would convince me that impeachment should be pursued.

I will not endorse living in a police state just to feel "safe".
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:43 PM
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8. I'd be even MORE furious at BushInc. We know WHY terrorism has been
fostered and terrorists proetected by the Bush family and their cronies for DECADES - it provides cover for every dirty move they make to assure the global fascist agenda is on track.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:50 PM
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9. Isn't that what 9-11 WAS?
NYC & DC?

I do not think another would change my politics just as the WTC bombing did not and the Oklahoma city bombing did not and 9-11 did not.
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:01 PM
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11. It would not change my politics
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 07:05 PM by BanzaiBonnie
So, Mr. Sam Odom, why would an attack such as you've described cause me to change my politics?

I hate liars and this administration has done nothing but lie since they were installed. They are NOT conservative. They are not Republicans. I do not claim any association with them. I was a Goldwater Republican and he is probably in utter shock over the behavior of this crew.


It is likely that I will never vote Republican again.

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Bitter Cup Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:04 PM
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12. I would still be a liberal. I'd still be against torture
My politics wouldn't change because my morals would not change. I don't hold my morals because I'm safe. I hold my morals because I believe in freedom and truth and a bunch of stuff that helps insure safety but is seldom secured by an extreme emphasis on it.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:06 PM
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13. Not at all.
Because my first thought when I realized 9/11 was an attack and not an accident was that Bush was behind it.

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Spinoza Donating Member (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:21 PM
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14. I think my response might depend on
whether any members of my family were killed. If not, I doubt my political views would change.

On the other hand, if any members of my family were killed I might be inclined to favor harsher interrogation measures-- than I now do-- because my emotions would be in charge. And I wouldn't care any longer, (with dead family members) whether or not the U.S. was complying with the Geneva Convention. I am sure I would still blame the Bush regime in part but I would mostly blame and feel hatred towards Al Qaeda and want revenge.

I suspect many people who now feel they would not change their views at all might not be able to live up to this position if loved ones were killed or horribly injured in the attack.

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twilight_sailing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:34 PM
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15. Joan Baez
wrote a book called "Daybreak" back during the Vietnam war. Let me look it up. 1968.

She had something to say about hypothetical questions that I have always remembered.

She said that hypothetical questions get hypothetical answers.








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Finder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 07:55 PM
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16. Not a bit. n/t
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:09 PM
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17. not at all ... here's why ...
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 08:15 PM by welshTerrier2
that's an excellent question, btw ...

my politics would not change because i believe we were attacked for a reason ... the US is making enemies all over the world because we allow greedy imperialists to impose their will on weaker foreign countries ...

my politics are that we should stop doing this ... btw, this view does NOT excuse the conduct of "terrorists" who would harm innocent civilians ... violence against civilians is NOT OK ... period ... so my view that US imperialism has caused the acts of terrorism against us does not "justify" that terrorism but rather defines its motivation ... our conduct is "the cause" of terrorism ...

what needs to change, i.e. what my politics are, is that we need to take back our government and cast out the corporatists who are controlling our immoral foreign policy ... the "multi-city" attacks you described would only serve to highlight what needs to be changed ... we cannot continue to steal oil, topple sovereign leaders and impose our culture on foreign countries without consequences ... returning power to the people instead of the current system that leaves almost all government power under the ugly greedy thumbs of greedy corporate America and their largest shareholders is what i define as Job One ...

btw, i am not a pacifist ... if implicit in your question is whether i would be willing to retaliate against those who attack innocent civilians, the answer is yes ... that's true now; it would be true given the hypothetical you posed ...
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Syncronaut Seven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:15 PM
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18. I'd be really fucking impressed.
Then I'd wonder how these masters of public safety pulled it off.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 08:56 PM
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20. Since he "won" two elections because of an attack...I really fear
the nation would follow him into battle because they are scared
and need someone to protect them. The woosie Dems can't be trusted. :sarcasm:

Can't wait to show them who will really protect this country.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:03 PM
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21. My own politics would harden
I sincerely believe the Dems are better at EVERYTHING than the Repubs.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:18 PM
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22. I would demand the immediate impeachment of Bush and Cheney
for putting our nation in heightened risk by their foolish military adventures in the Middle East.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:27 PM
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23. You got it. Not to mention failing to capture or kill Bin Laden
I believe that there are Islamic extremists who want to kill us.

I also believed that Bush and Cheney have played right into their hands.

They should be impeached and handed over to the world court.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 02:19 AM
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25. Ditto.
If it happens, it's because they WANT it to happen.
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:33 PM
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24. Not one bit. Not if 1,000,000 died. Not if it included family.
I have a fact-based political stance, developed over a period of many years. Am more likely to take on a tank "MacGyver style" than to support the sort of surveillance, torture, detainment and so on being done by the Bush2 administration.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 07:10 AM
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26. I have always been a PROUD LIBERAL, and I always will be...
That horror would have happened on the Bush Watch, so I would continue to do exactly as I am doing now -- work to make sure REAL DEMOCRATS are elected to every office in the country.

TC
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