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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:29 PM
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Secret prisons, torture, indefinite detainment.

And they justify it as if every prisoner is a terrorist. And their argument is that if you could get some information thats stops a terrorist attack on a school, won't you allow torture?

But here's on flaw in the logic:

"Captured on battlefields, pulled from beds at midnight, grabbed off streets as suspected insurgents, tens of thousands now have passed through U.S. detention, the vast majority in Iraq. Many say they were caught up in U.S. military sweeps, often interrogated around the clock, then released months or years later without apology, compensation or any word on why they were taken. Seventy to 90 percent of the Iraq detentions in 2003 were "mistakes," U.S. officers once told the international Red Cross."

That's the darker part of this. That we are torturing innocent people. 70 to 90% are 'mistakes'


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060917/ap_on_re_mi_ea/in_american_hands
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:34 PM
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1. 14,000 people in our gulags now....
so 70-90% are innocent.... split the diff - 80% or 11,200 innocent people are being tortured at least for those 14 "high value" suspects....

:eyes:

wow - we really ARE Osama's wet dream for recruitment, aren't we?

:grr:
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 06:35 PM
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2. Its more than a flaw in logic
Its putting government no longer at fear of its citizens, it is draconian in the extreme, absolutely beyond conscience for
any pretender to the constitution, and bloody obviously a stupid idea... no wonder the republicans are in to it!
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