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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:17 PM
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Lieberman says wrong for left to impugn motives of all who support *
NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/16/nyregion/16lieberman.html

Lieberman Stresses Dire Threat of Terrorism

By JENNIFER MEDINA
Published: September 16, 2006

FAIRFIELD, Conn., Sept. 15 — Under attack for his support of the war in Iraq, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave a 25-minute national security speech Friday without ever mentioning that conflict, instead arguing that the broad threat of international terrorism demands a continued aggressive stance. He said Osama bin Laden was “free and fomenting hatred against the United States.”

“We must stay alert and engage in this war against the barbarians, because that is what they are: modern barbarians at our gates,” Mr. Lieberman said before an audience of about 200 here at Fairfield University. “Our enemies are patient and purposeful. They are ruthless. They are lethal.”

It was Mr. Lieberman’s first major speech since he was defeated in the Democratic primary last month, and aides said it was intended to be a policy update rather than a political statement. A Democrat now running as an independent, Mr. Lieberman criticized both major parties, highlighting his odd political position now.

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But Mr. Lieberman, who is trying to strike a careful balance as he seeks Republican and unaffiliated votes in November, also criticized some of the president’s detractors.

“It is wrong for some on the left who go beyond dissent and demonize the president and impugn the motives of all those who support him,” Mr. Lieberman said. “Like it or not, we are in this war against terror, and we are in it together.”
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:19 PM
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1. Lieberman's political career is over! NM
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:20 PM
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2. I have no real objections to that,
but I'd ask Mr. L there if he thinks we should find and interrogate bin Laden's family. No doubt they reach out and touch someone, or at least have a friends'n'family plan... :7

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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:21 PM
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3. Hey, Holy Joe!
Go the hell back home and SHUT THE FUCK UP, willya? Nobody gives a shit about what you have to say anymore.

And I don't give a good goddamn WHAT you say, I am NOT "in it together" with that bumbling psychopathic idiot frat boy. YOU may not mind manning the sails with that creature, but leave the rest of us the hell out of it.
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NOLADEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:22 PM
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4. Hey Joe, we aren't all in this together
Don't try to drag me down with your sinking ship, you lapdog.

Joe, switch parties and suckle up on your Chimperor's teat. But don't patronize me on what is right.

Right is abiding by your party's primary.

Right is opposing a war that makes us less safe.

Right is admitting when you are wrong instead of continuing to dig.

Holy Joe, choke on it.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:28 PM
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7. Can I get an
AMEN!!!!!!!!!
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:34 PM
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12. Well, yes, to this post and to yours above!
I can't post what I really would like to here...just AMEN!!!
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CarlVK Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:24 PM
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5. Shut the fuck up, Joe
We've had enough of you fascist appeasement of domestic nazis. So please dont lecture me on how much we are all "together". I'm not in your camp at all. Not by a longshot.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:28 PM
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8. Can I get a double
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:25 PM
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When you are voted out Joe, get the fuck out. nt
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:25 PM
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6. Joe doesn't understand that there is no middle anymore.
This administration has gone to such an extreme that if you're in the middle, you're still on the right.

It is us against them. But it has nothing to do with the terrorists.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:18 AM
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28. Thanks to the "Uniter" n/t
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:31 PM
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9. shut the fuck up joe..we don't give a shit thatyou want to keep lying for
Edited on Mon Sep-18-06 09:34 PM by flyarm
little lord pissy pants..just shut the fuck up and go away..you are fired!

did you not get the memo joe????????

shut the fuck up!! we can not stand your guts!

fly
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:32 PM
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10. I only impugn his motives.
I assume the motives of Repukes who support Bush are power and greed and perhaps religious insanity.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:32 PM
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11. Did Joe have an official "coming out" party?
I must have missed the invitation to his "I'm GOP and feelin' free" bash.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:38 PM
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13. "demonize the president"? Bush is a tyrant!
Keith Olbermann said it best tonight:

Sept. 18, 2006 | 8:24 p.m. ET

Bush owes us an apology


For, there needs to be some other explanation, Mr. Bush, than that you truly believe we should live in a United States of America in which a thought is unacceptable.

There needs to be a delegation of responsible leaders -- Republicans or otherwise -- who can sit you down as Barry Goldwater and Hugh Scott once sat Richard Nixon down - and explain the reality of the situation you have created.

There needs to be an apology from the President of the United States.

And more than one.

But, Mr. Bush, the others -- for warnings unheeded five years ago, for war unjustified four years ago, for battle unprepared three years ago -- they are not weighted with the urgency and necessity of this one.

We must know that, to you, thought with which you disagree -- and even voice with which you disagree and even action with which you disagree -- are still sacrosanct to you.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/
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minnesota_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:39 PM
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14. The political equivalent of the last player selected in the NFL draft
Joseph Lieberman: Mr. Irrelevent
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:40 PM
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15. And Lamont responds with latest ad:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 10:44 PM
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25. Lamont has the most creative ads I've seen in decades
Seriously - whoever he has writing these things for him should be given a raise!

:thumbsup:
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:48 PM
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17. Defending The Divider, Who Refuses to Listen
to anyone outside his cabal of madman. Joe, together is not a word George Bush understands and you are delusional to keep defending his policies and repeating his words.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:56 PM
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18. And he's thinking this will help his election?
Damn, he's waaaay stupider than I thought.
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 09:58 PM
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19. let it go, Joe....
....take your defeat on election day like a man....
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 10:24 PM
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20. Hey joe - I don't support WAR CRIMINALS - never have, never will.
And I'm PROUD to be against this asswipe.

You can all hang together - count me out.

It's your and your repuke whores war - not the Democrats or mine.

It was an ILLEGAL war based on LIES.

It has NOTHING to do with protecting US.

I will be glad to see you defeated SOUNDLY...
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 10:26 PM
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21. So you don't think turnabout is fair play, Joe?
You called me some pretty unsavory things for opposing this president and his murderous, ruinous policies. And yet, for all your rhetoric about a war on barbarism and terror, why are we having a discussion about the legality of torture? Do you think that we hold the moral high ground when we use the same barbaric tactics and the same barbaric methods?

Take a walk, Joe. Take a very long walk. Off a very short pier.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 10:32 PM
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22. Where is OBL Joe?
No one demonized him, we just wanted him to keep his world that he would get OBL. Where is OBL Joe?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 10:33 PM
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23. Unlike the barbarians that launched an unprovoked invasion against
a disarmed nation and are lying about it to this day. What about THOSE barbarians, Joe?
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 10:40 PM
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24. What does one do with an embittered DLC loser? Why send him to the
AEI or Heritage Foundation or FoxNews, of course!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 10:57 PM
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26. I'd be more incline to support Joe's reach
if he actually got something useful in return.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-18-06 11:32 PM
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27. i really hope this guy loses the election and goes away.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-19-06 11:30 AM
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29. Gee, Joe. If you had spent one fraction of the energy you've spent
defending Chimp actually defending democratic ideals, you wouldn't be in the bad place you are today...

Just when I think it's not possible for me to loathe this piece of excrement any more than I already do, he makes me loathe him even a little bit more.
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