Okay, what am I missing here? If what has been done at Abu

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Graib and in the secret European prisons is supposed to retroactively be okay (according to Al & george), why did they court martial some people? Are you gonna tell me that what they did was worse than what's going on in secret? The things they was to be able to publically do to war prisoners is every bit as bad as what they were doing in those pictures. Except, of course, for the dead Iraqi military guy. That's problematic for those clowns. But who ever got court martialed for that?

And why were no rapists court martialed? Now that IS a war crime.

This just doesn't make sense.

(This attack of insanity brought on by Condosleeza's remark about the 'few bad apples' who did wrong have already been punished.)

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1. Its NOT OK--and the WH Knows that. That is why they are so desparately

trying to change the laws. Running scared?--are their deeds catching up with them?

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3. and I heard Condi say that a few minutes ago. The message-its in the

past-time to move on.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

2. it won't apply to the little people. It will only protect

the president and his cronies.

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4. yes, i read it does not apply to military personnel.

[Virginia Dare]

9. CIA personnel are lawyering up...

I believe there was an article within the last week about that.

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5. Punishment is allotted to the sick flunkies who carry out the

orders of the really sick bastards who direct it to happen? That's friggin' nuts. If one is guilty, they're all guilty.

You can't mastermind a bank robbery and walk away with the take while the guys who went into the bank go to prison for robbery.

This is where I have a LOT of trouble trying to wrap my brain around their legalities and justifications. Especially when some people have been prosecuted.

[KoKo]

6. Media has been totally silent on connecting AbuGhraib with torture at

Gitmo. They've willfully done this...because making the connection would destroy the torture argument. And, they've been allowed to get away with it because Americans forgot about the pictures and what went on there after the news cycle expired.

This is how our minds are manipulated. And, I wonder why no Democrat has made the connection. Is it because they too hope it will be swept under the rug ....just like the lies that took us into Iraq? Move On seems to be the Meme amongst the Media and DC. Cover it up and Move On. :grr:

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7. I hear the word torture I think of the guy in the plastic bag with

Lindy England's smiling face and thumbs up sign.

How can one fail to connect the two? And she was court martialed.

[KoKo]

8. We here on the "intenets" saw those pictures over and over. American

People only saw a few clips on TeeVee a few times. If they were busy a night or two they never saw them at all. More than half of Americans still think Saddam had WMD/Chem and Bio. Why is that?

[Virginia Dare]

10. Apparently those pictures are the mild ones...n/t

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11. that's right. I forgot that part.

Didn't the military try to call the other evidence secret - for national security reasons?

[Virginia Dare]

12. Yes, I believe they have so far successfully kept..

them under wraps. There was a thread here a couple of days ago about Sy Hersch claiming that there are pictures of little boys being sodomized, and that they will eventually come out.

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13. d a m n t h o s e b a s t a r d s. Them. The GOP. All of them.

How much pain, murder, torture have we caused the world because of this group of out of control neoConmen? How much more can the world take? How much more can we take?