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RegenerationMan Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:04 PM
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War Hero Max Cleland of Georgia for Kerry VP
Polls look like WA, MI, ME. and now VA are in the bag for Kerry. Even if Edwards wins TN, it's Kerry after that all the way.

What do you think of Max Cleland for VP. He would bring a lot to the table.

The southern, veteran and disability vote, endorsed Kerry early, helluva speaker, especially in his wheelchair. Wronged in slimiest race in Georgia in a long time, impugning Max's patriotism. That story alone will make southerners gravitate toward him.

First Disabled VP candidate with an incredible comeback story. War hero who is an anti-nuclear weapons and chemical weapons crusader.

The media will be bowled over every time they interview him in his wheelchair and he will run rings around Cheney and he was a member of the 9-11 Commission.

Former head of the Veteran's Administration! He's also an agressive Progressive--a real fighter like Kerry and not afraid to bring up aWol either!
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brainwashed_youth Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:08 PM
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1. that could work
as a Georgian, I have much respect for Max Cleland. I'd rather personally see Edwards as Kerry's VP and Wes Clark as Kerry's secretary of state...but that's just me
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:10 PM
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5. One other thing about Edwards
If he is the nom and we win, he will be set up for the nomination in 2012. I don't think Max would be on his way to the 2012 nom.
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:09 PM
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2. I like Max
It would be great to have him on board. He has made some great speeches since he was robbed of his senate seat (he made some good ones before as well). It would make it even harder for repugs to place the "weak on defense" meme on Dems seeing that he left three limbs in Vietnam.

If we go with Kerry, Max might be the one.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:09 PM
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3. Cleland would pack a wallop on the campaign trail.
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RegenerationMan Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:15 PM
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8. Wouldn't he though -- in fact he already does!
I would love a Cleland/Cheney--or rather Cleland/Guiliani debate.

No one is mentioning Cleland but if Kerry gets the nod, the short list might be:

Edwards
Cleland
Nunn

Gephardt is too much a loser and he will go with a Southerner, I believe. Graham I don't think is on the short list but of course what do I know? Think Kerry likes Clark and Dean less but will be gun-shy about about them making mistakes as a VP--Dean is another New Englander anyway.

Nunn is not going to get it. They need a bulldog campaigner and that's Max and Edwards. When it comes right down to it, I think it's Edwards charisma and movement vs. Cleland's personal story.

It's just that Edwards has the lawyer angle the GOP will attack upon. But it will be much harder to go after Max.

In the end, I think it might be Edwards vs. Cleland, with Cleland the surprise nominee in the end.

Don't forget that 15% of the population is disabled and they vote.
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:10 PM
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4. That would be my pick....
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:13 PM
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6. I'm sure he'll be some part of the administration
you can bet on that.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 07:22 PM
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7. Would Max be a good Secretary of Defense?
I have kept an open mind about both the Presidential and VP candidates because I am ABB
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:16 PM
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9. I believe Cleland was head of Veterans Affairs
appointed by Jimmy Carter, which preceded his time in the Senate.

Kerry has said he would consider McCain for Sec of Defense.
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 08:55 PM
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10. I think Cleland is a great idea!
For any candidate!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:26 PM
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11. Sounds great. Of course he won't help with Georgia, thanks to BBV.
But he would be a terrific VP nonetheless!
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poskonig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:27 PM
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12. That's an excellent idea.
I've forgotten about this option. Senator Kerry has many qualified people to chose from!
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 09:43 PM
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13. Found this on Cleland, anti-star wars, anti-nuke testing
http://www.clw.org/election/2002profiles/cleland.html

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As a 21-year old congressional intern, Max Cleland watched the U.S. Senate debate and approve President John F. Kennedy's above-ground nuclear test ban. The year was the fateful 1963. Young Max Cleland took the arguments to heart.

As a U.S. Senator in 1999, Max Cleland fought hard but unsuccessfully for the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty signed by President Bill Clinton. As a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, he emphasized the important non-proliferation benefits of the Treaty, but he could not overcome a Republican leadership determined to defeat the Treaty.

Born in Atlanta in 1942, Cleland grew up in the small Georgia town of Lithonia. He earned his B.A. from Florida's Stetson University and his Master's degree in American history from Emory in Atlanta.

In 1967, Cleland volunteered for combat duty in Vietnam. After rising to the rank of Captain, he was badly injured by an exploding grenade near Khe Sahn in 1968, and spent the next 18 months in rehabilitation hospitals. At his low point, he brooded that he had no income, no job, no hope and no future.

In an incredible display of inner strength, Max Cleland pulled himself back from adversity. In 1970, only two years after his injuries, only months after being released from the hospital, he won a seat in the Georgia state senate. At the age of 28, he became the youngest member and the only Vietnam veteran in that legislative body.

President Jimmy Carter appointed Cleland to head the U.S. Veterans Administration. Cleland was the youngest V.A. administrator and the first veteran of Vietnam in that post. He scored another first in 1982: Georgia voters made him the youngest Secretary of State in history. When Senator Sam Nunn announced his retirement in 1996, Cleland entered the race and won by only 30,000 votes out of more than 2.2 million cast.

Cleland has been one of the most vocal critics of a premature deployment of a national missile defense system. Without reservation, Cleland has pointed out that the technology is unproven, the threat unclear, the financial cost extravagant and that U.S. security will be undermined.

When Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee on June 21, 2001, Cleland launched this broadside:

"National missile defense is an uncertain trumpet at this point, and we ought not to blow it before we test it and fully make sure it is deployable. It doesn't make sense to deploy this system without that guarantee. Moving down that road without that kind of testing does not improve the security of the people of the United States."

Three weeks later, when Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz tried to defend the program, Cleland responded:

"All it takes is one nuclear warhead to ruin our day. Now, isn't it true, in the history of warfare there was no defense system that couldn't be overwhelmed. So is it not true the deployment of this national missile defense system won't be a hundred percent effective? I mean, there's no such thing out there as some 100 percent security that we're going to get from that in terms of incoming missiles. Isn't it true?

Cleland has been a strong advocate of deep negotiated reductions of nuclear weapons, maintaining the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, ratification of the Chemical Weapons Convention and adding funds to the non-proliferation program helping Russia to safeguard and dismantle its nuclear weapons. He is prodding our government to encourage all countries to adopt comprehensive safeguards for nuclear materials equivalent to those of the International Atomic Energy Agency. He has voted to transfer money from the military budget to veterans needs and to cut funding for the space-based laser program. He has worked hard to improve the quality of life of our nation's soldiers.

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i think there's really something to this Cleland idea

As a professional political consultant, I can only think of 30 million disabled voters and a triple amputee saying he will get all healthcare!
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-06-04 10:22 PM
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14. Cleland is my number one VP choice
He's a great man, a great liberal, a great John Kerry supporter, and people love him. I sincerely hope that Kerry picks him. Imagine a decorated lieutenant and a man missing three limbs going against Flight Suit Bush. He's going to look so stupid.
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