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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-21-06 11:53 PM
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A Bad Bargain (WH already trying to "wiggle out")
September 22, 2006
Editorial

A Bad Bargain

Here is a way to measure how seriously President Bush was willing to compromise on the military tribunals bill: Less than an hour after an agreement was announced yesterday with three leading Republican senators, the White House was already laying a path to wiggle out of its one real concession.

About the only thing that Senators John Warner, John McCain and Lindsey Graham had to show for their defiance was Mr. Bush’s agreement to drop his insistence on allowing prosecutors of suspected terrorists to introduce classified evidence kept secret from the defendant. The White House agreed to abide by the rules of courts-martial, which bar secret evidence. (Although the administration’s supporters continually claim this means giving classified information to terrorists, the rules actually provide for reviewing, editing and summarizing classified material. Evidence that cannot be safely declassified cannot be introduced.)

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The deal does next to nothing to stop the president from reinterpreting the Geneva Conventions. While the White House agreed to a list of “grave breaches” of the conventions that could be prosecuted as war crimes, it stipulated that the president could decide on his own what actions might be a lesser breach of the Geneva Conventions and what interrogation techniques he considered permissible. It’s not clear how much the public will ultimately learn about those decisions. They will be contained in an executive order that is supposed to be made public, but Mr. Hadley reiterated that specific interrogation techniques will remain secret.

Even before the compromises began to emerge, the overall bill prepared by the three senators had fatal flaws. It allows the president to declare any foreigner, anywhere, an “illegal enemy combatant” using a dangerously broad definition, and detain him without any trial. It not only fails to deal with the fact that many of the Guantánamo detainees are not terrorists and will never be charged, but it also chokes off any judicial review.

The Democrats have largely stood silent and allowed the trio of Republicans to do the lifting. It’s time for them to either try to fix this bill or delay it until after the election. The American people expect their leaders to clean up this mess without endangering U.S. troops, eviscerating American standards of justice, or further harming the nation’s severely damaged reputation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/opinion/22fri1.html?_r=1&oref=slogin



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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:05 AM
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1. No way! Bush weaseling on the deal?!
I don't think there's any way anyone could have seen that coming! Unless they had more than, oh, four or five working brain cells. Which of course is the excuse that McCain, Warner and Graham will use, since that's more firepower than all three of them put together have.

This bill is the last nail in the coffin of our democracy. Will the Senate stop this? Or will Bush railroad through a terrible bill, then do a signing statement saying that he's going to do whatever the hell he wants to anyway?

Voters, this is what you've elected. You have one day and one chance to fix it in November. If you think the Republicans in the House or the Senate are going to stop this galloping fascism, this should dispel the last of those delusions. Vote Democratic or watch America die. It's that simple.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 12:14 AM
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2. So why the hell did McCain and Graham claim they 'won'?
And I await the Dems' response. They will, and I know it will be scathing.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 03:38 AM
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4. It's all for show
Make headlines when you supposedly rebel and then make headlines again when you reach a 'compromise'. In the end nothing has changed and the chimp continues to blatantly break the law.

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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:42 AM
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3. doesn't matter what's passed . . . he'll just issue a signing statement
that's his "interpretation" of the legislation . . . McCain and the others who capitulated are just more stupid ass-suckers who've allowed BushCo to manipulate them for political advantage . . .
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 07:13 AM
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5. Right - the signing statement. King George will continue doing
whatever the hell he pleases anyway.
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