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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:10 PM
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"the [rebal] senators have capitulated entirely,"


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html
Lederman Watch

Georgetown Law School professor and blogger Marty Lederman has the complete language of the accord, and concludes: "It's not subtle at all, and it only takes 30 seconds or so to see that the senators have capitulated entirely, that the U.S. will hereafter violate the Geneva Conventions by engaging in cold cell, long time standing, etc., and that there will be very little pretense about it. In addition to the elimination of habeas rights in section 6, the bill would delegate to the president the authority to interpret 'the meaning and application of the Geneva Conventions' 'for the United States,' except that the bill itself would define certain 'grave breaches' of Common Article 3 to be war crimes. Some Senators apparently are taking comfort in the fact that the Administration's interpretation would have to be made, and defended, publicly. That's a small consolation, I suppose; but I'm confident the creative folks in my former shop at -- you know, those who concluded that waterboarding is not torture -- will come up with something."

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:15 PM
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1. It looked good until got to "pres interpret..."
No way in hell is that the right of ANY president.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:17 PM
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2. The most powerful country in the world,
and we have to use third world despot tactics. Unbelieveable.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:20 PM
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3. There was never any intention to do anything else.
The "rebellion" was 100% posturing and bullshit, just like every other time. Remember the gang of 14 and their bullshit to get Alito on the court?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 02:23 PM
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4. Its like a con game huh?
I think Reid is pretty good at figuring out their tactics.
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