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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:03 PM
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No compromise on torture From Amnesty International
Edited on Fri Sep-22-06 10:03 PM by bonito


Passing the word. Peace

Call Congress now!



Because the America we believe in leads the world on human rights.

Call Congress now!




Dear Robert

Yesterday, President Bush and several members of the Senate struck a deal on human rights. In the process, they dealt away America's commitment to fundamental human rights principles.

Make no mistake about it, this deal is a betrayal of the America we believe in. No human rights activist can remain on the sidelines in the days ahead. Call on your Senator to oppose these dangerous provisions. We are literally days away from action in Congress on a proposal to:

* Abandon the rule of law and give the President the freedom to interpret the Geneva Conventions any way he sees fit.
* Provide immunity to those responsible for past human rights abuses.
* Exempt from prosecution those who authorize treatment traditionally considered torture.
* Strip detainees of access to US courts.

The soul of our nation is in jeopardy. Everything we believe in is on the line. That's why we're mobilizing the entire Amnesty community. We're going into action today and we won't stop until every last Senator has made it clear whether he or she is willing to stand up for the America we believe in.

Please act today. Those behind this dangerous deal are doing everything they can to quickly build momentum. We have to break that momentum and we have to do it now.

We implore you to call Congress immediately.

If America renounces the Geneva Conventions like President Bush wants to do, nations all over the world will follow. American soldiers will be placed in greater threat of torture and cruel treatment when captured, not just by one or two rogue nations, but by many nations that follow America's lead.

Call 1 800 AMNESTY and our operators will connect you to your official or call the Congressional switch board directly at 202-224-3121. Let the person on the phone know that you are a constituent, and tell them that the deal President Bush has struck is a betrayal of the America you believe in. Ask your Senators and Representative to stand firm in defense of human rights.

After you've made your call, tell report back on how it went here.

Thank you.


Larry Cox
Executive Director
Amnesty International USA

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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:26 PM
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1. K&R
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pat_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-22-06 10:44 PM
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2. Just say NO to the War Criminals Protection Act of 2006
Edited on Fri Sep-22-06 10:45 PM by pat_k
A message to our so-called "leaders":
Do you really want to be an accessory after the fact to War Crimes?

If you don't fight to kill the War Criminals Protection Act of 2006, that is precisely what you become.

Do you really want to side with people who are hell-bent on making our inalienable rights UNENFORCEABLE?

The so-called "definition problem" is nothing compared to this part (page 79 of http://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/nkk/documents/MilitaryCommissions.pdf">Bush's version):

(b) RIGHTS NOT JUDICIALLY ENFORCEABLE.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—No person in any habeas action or any other action may invoke the Geneva Conventions or any protocols thereto as a source of rights, whether directly or indirectly, for any purpose in any court of the United or its States or territories.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 12:13 AM
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3. The appropriate response to this act
The appropriate response to this act is to demand -- not request, but demand -- that the UN establish a special international tribunal for war crimes in Iraq and crimes against humanity arising out of the so-called war on terror.

If in the last days of GOP dominance in Congress laws are going to be passed to get war criminals in the Bush regime immunity from prosecution, then we must appeal to to a body of law that is beyond the power of these war criminals and their congressional sycophants to manipulate.

Congress can grant these thugs immunity from prosecution in a federal court, but not from an international tribunal.

Neither Congress nor Mr. Bush nor someone who really is President of the United States (were there such a person today) is not competent to decide what is torture under the Geneva Conventions. The Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment assigns that jurisdiction to the Committee against Torture, described in Part II of the Convention. I do not believe Congress is synonymous with the UN COmmittee against Torture, nor that Mr. Bush nor Mr. Cheney nor any other member of the US junta are member of that committee.

For my own view, waterboarding, electroshock, sleep or sensory deprivation, exposure to extreme hot and cold, setting on of vicious dogs, is torture. That is by no means a complete list. If it takes an act of Congress to say it isn't torture, then it's most likely torture. If it inflicts physical pain and is likely to work better at getting the subject to tell the interrogator what he wants to hear rather what he needs to know, it is torture.

Torture is a crime against humanity. Extraordinary rendition is a crime against humanity. Writing or approving a ridiculously reasoned legal memo stating that the President of the United States has the authority to decide what torture is or to order it is a crime against humanity.

It is also my view that any court that denies a defendant the right to review the evidence against him -- all of it -- or to cross examine witnesses or to put on a full and complete defense and the right to be represented by an attorney and to speak in confidence to that attorney, is no court of justice. To commission such a court to try prisoners of war or other combat detainees, protected by the Third and Fourth Geneva Conventions, is itself a war crime.

It is also my view that if a person detained in a war zone is not a prisoner of war and thus protected by the Third Geneva Convention, then he is protected by the Fourth Geneva Convention. There is no such thing as an "illegal combatant". No person in the world is in legal limbo under the Geneva Conventions.

Finally, I do not believe an international tribunal should, except under very exceptional cases, indict and try private soldiers. It is a court hear accusation against policy makers and decision makers -- a decider, if you will. As long as there are guidelines handed down by someone in a chain of command, then I do not believe the private soldier at the end of the chain of command who must carry out the order is responsible.

When it comes to an international tribunal, shit rolls uphill.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:42 PM
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4. Those who don't like being likened to Nazis should not act more and
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 04:43 PM by indepat
more like Nazis, as will every Congressperson, IMNSHO, who supports/votes for any illegal and wholly un-American assault on human decency: those who really like torture and salivate and get their jollies up over just the thought of torture are excepted and excused from comparisons.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:00 PM
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5. Absolutely.
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