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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:53 PM
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Was this the photo of Bin Laden's funeral in Afghanistan?
US knew OBL died last month, but kept it quiet because the Bush regime was going to announce in late October that it had killed OBL in a Predator strike. Bush would have gotten a big boost in the polls, and no one would have been the wiser.

Makes me wonder about that Predator photo of the Al-Qaeda funeral in Afghanistan-Pakistan border that was published a week ago. They never said or speculated as to whose funeral it was. It could have been OBL's funeral.

The inconvenient truth is that Bush needed OBL to remain alive for a bit longer.

U.S. military to probe release of photo of Taliban funeral in Afghanistan



http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-09-13-taliban-photo_x.htm?POE=NEWISVA
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:54 PM
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1. I hope so
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:57 PM
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3. Welcome to DU, Sam Odom
Right proud to meet you!:hi: :hi:
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:59 PM
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4. Thx
:toast:
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Ecumenist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:56 PM
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2. What a shame..
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 03:59 PM by Ecumenist
Things just ain't working out for ole carl... PO THANG...
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 03:59 PM
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5. I don't know but why on earth w/ this many al Qaeda lined up
and we did not hit that place PDQ makes no sense to me.

If we live, get a free press, and have the right to investigate bush & company
the total # of crimes by that group will be staggering.
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:05 PM
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7. Hit a funeral !?
That would 'offend' too many people
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:30 PM
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15. well we aren't shy about dropping 1000 pound bombs on weddings.!!
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Sam Odom Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:01 PM
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19. Honestly, if bushco bombed a funeral
how would you react ?
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:16 PM
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21. I think they already have...
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 05:19 PM by elizm
Oops...my bad. They were weddings...I forgot.

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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 08:20 PM
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27. i havent reacted well to anything before or during this F'n illegal war
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:01 PM
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6. If OBL is dead
then pound it home at every opportunity that he died a free man.

In spite of tortured captives, OBL died a free man.
In spite of thousands of dead in Iraq, he died a free man.
In spite of countless illegal wiretaps, he died a free man.
In spite of a War President and mission accomplished, he died a free man.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:08 PM
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8. Here Here will said
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:10 PM
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9. Say it isn't so!
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 04:18 PM by rocknation
Was this the October surprise Karl Rove hinted at, and has been destroyed by none other than the French? Wouldn't THAT be lovely!

:headbang:
rocknation
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:14 PM
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10. OMG, guess we're back to Freedom Fries
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:22 PM
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12. And maybe we'll see gas at a buck a gallon by Election Day after all!
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 04:41 PM by rocknation
:evilgrin:
rocknation
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:37 PM
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16. and did you notice Al Qua eda, how many were there?
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 04:37 PM by MissWaverly
maybe now the War on Terror will be over and with it, his war powers, I can dream
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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:40 PM
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25. I was wondering the same thing
rocknation. That would be too sweet if the French broke the news first!

AFSCME girl
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:15 PM
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34. Liberte´! Egalite´! Fraternite´! Vive la France! n/t
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nickshepDEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:15 PM
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11. The media, the White House, and the RNC/NRSCC will spin it like this...
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 04:20 PM by nickshepDEM
As a result of our efforts in Afghanistan post 9/11, we kept Bin Laden on the run and confined to small caves w/ no access to medical supplies. His death is a obvious victory for US and her allies in the war on terror.




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Truthiness Inspector Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:22 PM
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13. Good question
Just whose funeral was this?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:29 PM
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14. Are Afghan cemeteries normally open fields? And with only one vehicle?
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 04:36 PM by rocknation
...an NBC News correspondent's blog...(published) the photograph...Defense department officials first tried to block further publication of the photo, then struggled to explain what it depicted.

...The photo appeared on NBC News correspondent Kerry Sanders' blog. Initially military officials called it an unauthorized release, but they later said it was given to the journalist.


We only have DoD's word that it was a funeral, and that all attendees Taliban insurgents. If it really is a funeral, maybe the reason why they didn't attack is because it was a civilian one. I don't think the Taliban are so sentimental that 190 of them would expose themselves this way. And how does Kerry Sanders explain how he got the picture? Keep in mind that NBC is owned by a defense contractor.

:headbang:
rocknation



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robertarctor Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:45 PM
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17. Maybe the reason they didn't publish it ...
... was that its dissemination threatened Karl Rove's propaganda plans for October. And maybe that's the reason they didn't attack: to launch missiles on the funeral of a man whose death they planned to announce in late October right before the election had too many wild card possibilities of Bin Laden's death making it into worldwide news circulation before it could be exploited effectively by our own Roviet media.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 07:30 PM
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36. "Roviet"
Lovely. Drummer: rimshot please!
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:09 PM
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20. Okay, here's Kerry Sander's side of the story
Edited on Sat Sep-23-06 05:10 PM by rocknation
From Sanders' blog, 9/12:
The picture above, declassified at NBC News' request, shows 190 members of the Taliban at a funeral. It’s believed by U.S. Army officers that several of those gathered were top Taliban leaders. But the U.S. was unable to take out the men standing in formation.

Why? Under the rules of engagement, the U.S. cannot bomb a cemetery.

...The unmanned Predator drone...continued to feed back pictures as the Taliban dispersed, heading off in tiny groups, too small to effectively target.


From Sanders' blog, 9/13:
I received an urgent request from a U.S. Army colonel via e-mail this morning. He said that the surveillance photo I included in my blog post yesterday...should not have been released, even though I was told by others in the U.S. Army that it had been properly declassified...As a courtesy, and with an awareness of the danger U.S. forces are in, I had the photo pulled.

We are now returning the picture to this blog after (a) Pentagon spokesman...told reporters...that he is unaware of any official...request to pull the photo...I have also spoken to the military intelligence officers who gave me the photo and they say while there are now some internal debates...it's declassified and ours to broadcast and print on the Web...


Would the Army deliberately put itself in such an embarassing position? Did the leaker of the photo come to the exact same conclusion the orignal poster did, and release the photo as a pre-emptive strike?

:headbang:
rocknation
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 09:17 AM
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33. "Rules of engagement"? What dat?
I thought those were quaint things, like the Geneva Convention.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:28 PM
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23. Good thing there is a picture as this has got
to be the MOST organized funeral in the history of the middl east. Does the taliban have some AR freak organizing community functions?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 04:51 PM
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18. article says this was in JULY 2006...but who knows ..could be...n/t
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:20 PM
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22. Tin foil hat time?
OK I believe it too but where's the evidence of Bushco's plan? Right wing spinmeisters just "conspiracy theory" this to the dustbin.

Quite glad about the French report though. Think some French persons didn't know what Bush was up to?

Cheese eating surrender monkeys my ass. Right on Iraq all along@

Somebody pass the Freedom Fries!!!!
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:32 PM
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24. Check out this paragraph:
"...While not giving a reason for the decision, the military concluded the statement saying that while Taliban forces have killed innocent civilians during a funeral, coalition forces "hold themselves to a higher moral and ethical standard than their enemies."

What kind of BS is this? They had already been referred to as "insurgents" by the military, and then they point out that Taliban have killed "innocent civilians" during a funeral but we are better than that?

My guess is someone didn't notice what was going on in time to drop a couple bombs, and are trying to cover their asses as to why they let 100+ Taliban get away.


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hurricaneric Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 05:54 PM
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26. Agreed.
Pretty interesting stuff. I was waiting for Bush to say he had captured Osama when he gave the televised address about the secret CIA prison system. It would have been a bomb on the minds of average Americans. Now, the bomb has totally been defused. I don't doubt that it will come to light that Bi Laden is either dead or still missing. Ultimately, Bush can't drag his boogie man out of the closet without long term represcussions. The short term is another story.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 08:28 PM
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28. Very good catch IndianaGreen
I would lay money on it being OBL.
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Singular73 Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-23-06 09:39 PM
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29. Not only is he dead, they know he's dead.
When it comes out, they will claim "It wasn't confirmed, etc.."

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silverlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 12:34 AM
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30. If this is OBL, then
the military knows where to look for the body, if the decider decides.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 01:57 AM
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31. I wouldn't be surprised if a team was sent to collect DNA evidence
and they are now certain of who was buried with such honors.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 07:58 AM
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32. Maybe there's still enough time
to dig up the body and put him on ice for a few weeks.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-24-06 07:07 PM
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35. K&R! Excellent catch WAY TO CONNECT THE DOTS! They wouldn't bomb it
Edited on Sun Sep-24-06 07:08 PM by cyberpj
Out of respect to OBL's Saudi/Bush history.

In exchange - I'll bet they get to take credit for it.

Wish we could blow up THAT part of the story when they announce it.

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